FY2026Q3 电话会逐字稿
发言人
点击某位发言人,只突出显示其发言;再次点击恢复| 姓名 | 职位 | 机构 | 段落 |
|---|---|---|---|
| Susan Li | CFO | Meta | 37 |
| Mark Zuckerberg | CEO | Meta | 33 |
| Operator | 10 | ||
| Rob Bevegni | Director of Investor Relations | Meta | 2 |
| Brian Nowak | Analyst | Morgan Stanley | 2 |
| Eric Sheridan | Analyst | Goldman Sachs | 2 |
| Doug Anmuth | Analyst | J.P. Morgan | 2 |
| Justin Post | Analyst | Bank of America | 2 |
| Mark Shmulik | Analyst | Bernstein | 1 |
| Ross Sandler | Analyst | Barclays | 1 |
| Mark Mahaney | Analyst | Evercore ISI | 1 |
● 公司管理层 / 主持人 ● 外部分析师
P00100:00
Operator
Good afternoon. My name is Krista and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Meta's third quarter 2026 earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker's remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, please press star one on your telephone keypad. To withdraw your question, again, press star one. We ask that you limit yourself to one question, and this call will be recorded. Thank you very much. Rob Bhavani, Meta's Director of Investor Relations, you may begin.
下午好。我叫 Krista,今天由我担任本次电话会议的接线员。在此,我欢迎各位参加 Meta 2026 年第 3 季度财报电话会议。为避免任何背景噪音,所有线路目前已静音。在发言人结束讲话后,我们将进入问答环节。如果您想提问,请按电话键盘上的星号键加 1。如需撤回提问,请再次按星号键加 1。请每位提问者仅限提 1 个问题,本次电话会议将被录音。非常感谢。Meta 投资者关系总监 Rob Bhavani(Rob Bevegni),您可以开始了。
P00200:41
Rob BevegniDirector of Investor Relations
Thank you. Good afternoon, and welcome to Meta Platforms third quarter 2026 earnings conference call. Joining me today to discuss our results are Mark Zuckerberg, CEO, and Susan Li, CFO. Our remarks today will include forward-looking statements which are based on assumptions as of today. Actual results may differ materially as a result of various factors, including those set forth in today's earnings press release and in our quarterly report on Form 10-Q filed with the SEC. We undertake no obligation to update any forward-looking statement. During this call, we will present both GAAP and certain non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP measures is included in today's earnings press release. The earnings press release and an accompanying investor presentation are available on our website at investor.atmeta.com. I would like to turn the call over to Mark.
谢谢。下午好,欢迎参加 Meta Platforms 2026 年第 3 季度财报电话会议。今天与我一起讨论业绩的有首席执行官 Mark Zuckerberg 和首席财务官 Susan Li。我们今天的发言将包含基于截至今日之假设的前瞻性陈述。受多种因素影响,实际结果可能存在重大差异,这些因素包括今天的财报新闻稿以及我们向 SEC 提交的 10-Q 表季度报告中所列的各项因素。我们不承担更新任何前瞻性陈述的义务。在本次电话会议期间,我们将同时展示 GAAP 和若干非 GAAP 财务指标。GAAP 与非 GAAP 指标的调节表已包含在今天的财报新闻稿中。财报新闻稿及配套的投资者演示文稿可在我们的网站 investor.atmeta.com 上查阅。下面我将把电话交给 Mark。
P00301:28
Mark ZuckerbergCEO
All right. Hey, everyone. Thanks for joining today. This has been a busy and exciting few months. Our family of apps is now used by 3.64 billion people each day, and we are seeing all-time highs in engagement on both Facebook and Instagram, driven by strong growth in video. Threads has now overtaken X in monthly actives and continues to grow quickly. WhatsApp is hitting all-time highs in messaging and is becoming an increasingly important platform for agents as well. In the last few months, we have had several major milestones towards our goal of delivering personal superintelligence to everyone. We had one of our most successful launches ever with the Muse personal agent. We shipped Muse Wonder as our first frontier model, and we shipped several new glasses and gadgets with Muse integration, including coming soon to our new audio glasses.
好的。大家好,感谢今天参加会议。过去的几个月非常忙碌且令人振奋。现在每天有 36.4 亿人使用我们的 Family of Apps,受视频业务强劲增长的推动,Facebook 和 Instagram 的用户参与度均创下历史新高。Threads 的月活跃用户数现已超越 X,并继续快速增长。WhatsApp 的消息发送量也创下历史新高,同时正日益成为智能体(Agent)的重要平台。在过去几个月里,我们在向所有人提供个人超级智能(personal superintelligence)的目标上取得了几项重大里程碑。我们的 Muse 个人智能体成为了我们有史以来最成功的发布之一。我们推出了首个前沿模型 Muse Wonder,并推出了多款集成 Muse 的新款眼镜和硬件设备,包括即将登陆我们新款音频眼镜的集成功能。
P00402:23
We have been discussing our vision for personal superintelligence for more than a year now. We want to help every person have an extremely capable personal agent that understands their goals and can help you achieve them and improve your life in whatever ways you want, whether that is improving your relationships, helping you save time, save money, build a business, create new things, or anything else that you can dream of. Muse is the product form of this vision. Now, we have the foundational technology in place to deliver this. There is still a lot of work ahead, but our initial position is very strong. In just a month and a half, more than 10 million people in the U.S. and Canada have set up Muse personal agents. Growth continues to be strong, and we have been number one in the App Store almost every day.
我们探讨个人超级智能的愿景已经超过 1 年了。我们希望帮助每个人拥有一个极其强大的个人智能体,它能够理解你的目标并帮助你实现这些目标,以你想要的任何方式改善你的生活——无论是改善人际关系、帮你节省时间、省钱、创业、创造新事物,还是你能梦想到的任何其他事情。Muse 就是这一愿景的产品形态。现在,我们已经具备了实现这一目标的基础技术。前方仍有大量工作要做,但我们的起步地位非常稳固。在短短 1.5 个月内,美国和加拿大已有超过 1000 万人设置了 Muse 个人智能体。增长依然强劲,我们几乎每天都在 App Store 排名第 1。
P00503:12
Engagement and retention are also off to a strong start. About 25% of people who have set up Muse use it on any given day. For our earliest adopters, the longer that they use Muse, the better the retention seems to get. To put this in perspective, this is more than twice the level that Threads started at, or where we believe that other AI apps started at as well. The most common use case for Muse is shopping, with more than a quarter of people who are using Muse engaging in this with an average purchase size of over $200. Plaid told us that they hadn't seen activity like they're seeing with their connector on any other service before. In the first week, we had to work with Stripe to raise credit limits since the volumes were above what any of us expected.
用户参与度和留存率也取得了强劲的开局。在设置了 Muse 的用户中,约有 25% 的人会在任意一天使用它。对于我们最早期的采用者而言,他们使用 Muse 的时间越长,留存率似乎就越好。作为参照,这一水平是 Threads 起步时的 2 倍以上,也是我们认为其他 AI 应用起步水平的 2 倍以上。Muse 最常见的使用场景是购物,在使用 Muse 的用户中,有超过 1/4(25%)的人参与其中,平均客单价超过 200 美元。Plaid 告诉我们,他们此前在任何其他服务上都未见过像在其连接器(connector)上看到的这种活跃度。在第 1 周,由于交易量超出了我们所有人的预期,我们不得不与 Stripe 合作以提高信用额度。
P00604:00
Beyond shopping, the most common connectors are for personal productivity and connecting Muse to your other services like email and calendar. This shows the importance of the Muse secure VM that we've built to provide state-of-the-art privacy and security, and we are looking forward to following up soon with a Muse confidential VM, which will make it so that even Meta cannot see your content. We've also seen that Muse Wonder improves quality, engagement, and retention further, which suggests that as we continue to improve intelligence, Muse will perform better and better over time. Now that Muse has clear product market fit, we are entering a new phase and a more operational phase that is focused on scaling it. The goals for this next phase play to many of Meta's strengths. We need to do three things: scale the product, grow revenue, and optimize compute costs.
除购物外,最常见的连接器用于个人生产力,以及将 Muse 连接到电子邮件和日历等其他服务。这体现了我们为提供最先进的隐私和安全保障而构建的 Muse 安全虚拟机(secure VM)的重要性,同时我们期待很快推出 Muse 机密虚拟机(confidential VM),从而使甚至连 Meta 也无法查看你的内容。我们还看到,Muse Wonder 进一步提升了质量、参与度和留存率,这表明随着我们不断提升智能水平,Muse 的表现将随时间推移越来越好。既然 Muse 已经展现出清晰的产品市场契合度(PMF),我们正在进入一个更加注重运营的新阶段,重点是将其规模化。下一阶段的目标充分发挥了 Meta 的诸多优势。我们需要做 3 件事:扩大产品规模、增长收入,以及优化算力成本。
P00704:55
We expect to grow Muse to serve billions of people. This is both our mission and our strategy. It's our mission in that we believe in putting the power of personal superintelligence in everyone's hands. We believe that that is the path to ensuring a positive future for everyone with individual empowerment as the source of prosperity and balance of power as the foundation for safety. On a values level, we believe that delivering this capability widely is the best thing that we can be doing. This is also our strategy because we think that billions of Muses in a network at scale will be able to get more done for people and businesses by working together. We'd like to create a large-scale Muse network as quickly as possible.
我们预计将把 Muse 发展到服务数十亿人。这既是我们的使命,也是我们的战略。说它是我们的使命,是因为我们坚信要把个人超级智能的力量交到每个人手中。我们相信,这是确保每个人拥有积极未来的道路——以个人赋能作为繁荣的源泉,以力量平衡作为安全的基石。在价值观层面上,我们认为广泛提供这种能力是我们所能做的最好的事情。说它也是我们的战略,是因为我们认为,一个由数十亿个 Muse 组成的规模化网络通过协同工作,将能够为个人和企业做成更多事情。我们希望尽快建立一个大规模的 Muse 网络。
P00805:39
From a business perspective, the average revenue per American user for our existing Muse users, sorry, for our existing family of apps users, is several hundreds of dollars annually, and we expect that Muse will reach an even higher level over time due to the amount of commerce that we already see taking place. This will take some time, but we're starting to work on this now. Our business model will have a few components. For most people, the product should be free, and we will build commerce tools so we get paid a fee based on the transactions that we help facilitate. We expect this will be paid for by businesses. For people who want the most advanced models or to use extra tokens, they subscribe directly and pay.
从商业角度来看,我们现有 Muse 用户——抱歉,是我们现有 Family of Apps 用户的美国用户平均年收入(ARPU)为数百美元,考虑到我们已经看到的商业交易量,我们预计 Muse 随时间推移将达到更高的水平。这需要一定时间,但我们现在已经开始着手推进。我们的商业模式将包含几个组成部分。对大多数人来说,该产品应该是免费的,我们将构建商业工具,从而根据我们协助促成的交易收取费用。我们预计这部分费用将由商家支付。对于想要使用最先进模型或额外 token 的用户,他们可以直接订阅并付费。
P00906:29
For business owners who want additional features to use Muse to grow their businesses or for companies that want people to use Muse for work, they will be able to subscribe directly and pay as well. For those who want Muse to help improve the personalization and quality of their content and ads across Meta, they will be able to connect to those experiences as well. Just to clarify, the average revenue that I was talking about before is the family of apps revenue for our existing Muse users. On the compute side, we are building out the capacity to serve more than 1 billion people over the next few years.
对于希望获得额外功能以利用 Muse 发展业务的企业主,或者希望员工在工作中使用 Muse 的公司,他们也可以直接订阅并付费。对于那些希望 Muse 帮助提升其在 Meta 各平台上内容和广告的个性化程度与质量的用户,他们也可以连接到这些体验。需要澄清一下,我刚才提到的平均收入是指我们现有 Muse 用户在 Family of Apps 上的收入。在算力方面,我们正在建设未来几年可服务超过 10 亿人的容量。
P01007:03
In the near term, Muse is very compute-intensive to run, but we expect to improve its cost efficiency by more than 10x in the next year, which will enable it to be profitable once the revenue lines are at scale. If compute efficiency continues improving quickly for another few years, which we think is highly likely, then Muse will be highly profitable over multiple years. In the near term, the strength of our core business enables us to scale the Muse network before then, and we believe that we are the best-positioned company to pursue this strategy. One other note on compute economics is that since training is a large fixed cost, now that we have leading models, we want to serve as much high-margin inference demand as possible. That is why we are building the Meta Enterprise platform led by CJ Desai.
短期内,运行 Muse 非常消耗算力,但我们预计在明年将其成本效率提高 10 倍以上,这将使其在各条收入线达到规模后实现盈利。如果算力效率在接下来几年继续快速提升(我们认为这种可能性极高),那么 Muse 将在多年时间内实现高度盈利。在短期内,我们核心业务的强劲表现使我们能够在此之前扩大 Muse 网络的规模,我们相信我们是推进这一战略最具优势的公司。关于算力经济性的另外 1 点说明是,由于训练是一项庞大的固定成本,既然我们拥有了领先的模型,我们就希望尽可能多地承接高利润率的推理需求。这就是为什么我们正在构建由 CJ Desai 领导的 Meta Enterprise 平台。
P01107:54
Muse Wonder and even more advanced models that we're training can serve additional high-margin services beyond the Muse network, including our API, Muse Code, and other enterprise services. A fundamental feature of our business is that we have many good uses for this compute. It is difficult to forecast the exact growth rates for the Muse network, for our Enterprise platform, and for how Muse Wonder and beyond will accelerate our core business. But through building up multiple ways to deploy these advanced models, we increase the chances that one or more of them significantly outperforms our expectations. Beyond serving other businesses, we have not yet found the limit of how effectively we can apply compute to accelerating our own core business. We have implemented an eval with Muse Wonder to improve how effectively it can autonomously improve our recommendations and ad systems.
Muse Wonder 以及我们正在训练的更先进模型,可以服务于 Muse 网络之外的更多高利润率服务,包括我们的 API、Muse Code 和其他企业级服务。我们业务的一个基本特征是,我们对这些算力有许多良好的用途。目前很难准确预测 Muse 网络、我们的 Enterprise 平台,以及 Muse Wonder 和后续模型将如何加速我们核心业务的具体增长率。但通过构建部署这些先进模型的多种途径,我们增加了其中 1 个或多个方向大幅超出预期的概率。除了服务其他企业外,我们尚未触及有效应用算力来加速自身核心业务的上限。我们已经使用 Muse Wonder 实施了一项评估(eval),以提升其自主改进我们推荐系统和广告系统的效率。
P01208:51
As our upcoming models get even more advanced, I expect that we're going to see an increasing rate of improvement in these systems. All right. Let's talk about the models now. Muse Wonder is state-of-the-art across many dimensions that matter for personal superintelligence. This validates the importance of training models ourselves to deliver the best experience. In addition to Muse, we have also seen that engagement per person in Meta AI has more than doubled since April when we started rolling out our new models. While Muse Wonder has been our most important release, I've been very pleased with our pace of execution here. In the last few months, we've shipped Muse Spark 1.2 and 1.3, Muse Code, two open weights models with Muse Glimmer and Muse Spark Open, and also Muse Voice.
随着我们即将推出的模型变得更加先进,我预计我们将看到这些系统的改进速度不断加快。好的,现在来谈谈模型。Muse Wonder 在对个人超级智能至关重要的多个维度上均达到了最先进水平(SOTA)。这验证了我们自主训练模型以提供最佳体验的重要性。除 Muse 外,我们还看到自 4 月份开始推出新模型以来,Meta AI 的人均参与度已经增长了 1 倍以上(超过 2 倍)。虽然 Muse Wonder 是我们最重要的发布,但我对我们在这方面的执行速度感到非常满意。在过去几个月里,我们发布了 Muse Spark 1.2 和 1.3、Muse Code、2 款开放权重模型 Muse Glimmer 和 Muse Spark Open,以及 Muse Voice。
P01309:42
Going forward, with the field advancing quickly, we plan to focus on both pushing the frontier of intelligence and distilling those models into much smaller and more efficient product models that will be optimized for personal agents. My view is that we will be able to build superintelligence through scaling, so we are methodically working our way up the ladder there. We are already working on larger models after Muse Wonder, and they are going to be very impressive and capable. We are also working on new smaller models that are coming out soon that will deliver Muse Wonder-level intelligence more efficiently. Moving on, our work on personal superintelligence is now also the focus of Reality Labs. Muse is coming to Meta Glasses starting next month, and that will be an important step towards this.
展望未来,随着该领域的快速发展,我们计划一方面继续推进智能的前沿,另一方面将这些模型蒸馏为体积小得多、效率高得多的产品级模型,并针对个人智能体进行优化。我的观点是,我们将能够通过规模化(scaling)构建超级智能,因此我们正在有条不紊地沿着这条阶梯向上攀登。我们已经在研发 Muse Wonder 之后的更大规模模型,它们将非常令人惊叹且功能强大。同时,我们也在研发即将推出的新型小模型,它们将以更高的效率提供 Muse Wonder 级别的智能。接下来,我们在个人超级智能方面的工作现在也成为了 Reality Labs 的重心。Muse 将于下个月开始登陆 Meta Glasses,这将是朝着这一方向迈出的重要一步。
P01410:29
People already love many features of the glasses already, music, calling, capturing moments, hearing assistance, and more. But over time, we expect Muse and having your personal superintelligence with you throughout the day will be the most important part of the experience. Muse is also central to the business model for the glasses. Again, our mission and strategy are to serve everyone here. We believe in putting the power of this technology in everyone's hands. So we have priced our devices not to make a large profit on the hardware, but to build a large software and superintelligence business on top of them over time. Glasses sales continue to grow rapidly, and now with Muse, we expect that paid subscriptions will increase and that this business will begin improving meaningfully from here.
人们已经非常喜欢这款眼镜的许多功能,比如听音乐、通话、抓拍瞬间、辅助听力等等。但随着时间推移,我们预计 Muse 以及全天候随身的个人超级智能将成为整个体验中最重要的部分。Muse 也是眼镜商业模式的核心。同样,我们在这里的使命和战略是服务每一个人。我们坚信要把这项技术的力量交到每个人手中。因此,我们对硬件设备的定价并非为了在硬件上赚取巨额利润,而是为了随时间推移在其之上建立庞大的软件和超级智能业务。眼镜销量继续快速增长,现在有了 Muse 的加持,我们预计付费订阅量将会增加,这项业务将从现在开始实现显著改善。
P01511:17
I also shared at Connect that we are changing our approach to virtual reality to only ship new devices when we have major breakthroughs like we had with the Meta VR Glasses this year, which of course are the first VR experience ever in a pair of glasses. I continue to believe that the path to delivering holographic experience of bringing together the physical and digital worlds in everyday glasses will come through VR first, but we will pace this aspect of our investment more to focus on delivering personal superintelligence first. So with these factors combined, we expect that the P&L of Reality Labs to improve from here with operating loss coming down to around $15 billion next year and trending towards profitability from there. Before we conclude, I want to spend a moment on the sheer velocity that we are seeing.
我还在 Connect 大会上分享过,我们正在改变在虚拟现实(VR)领域的策略,只有当我们取得像今年推出的 Meta VR Glasses 那样的重大突破时才会发布新设备——当然,这是有史以来首次在眼镜形态中实现的 VR 体验。我依然相信,在日常眼镜中融合实体世界与数字世界、实现全息体验的道路将首先通过 VR 来实现,但我们会放缓这方面的投资节奏,以便优先聚焦于交付个人超级智能。综合这些因素,我们预计 Reality Labs 的损益表(P&L)将从现在开始改善,明年营业亏损将降至约 150 亿美元,并在此后逐步走向盈利。在结束发言前,我想花一点时间谈谈我们目前所展现出的惊人执行速度。
P01612:09
An important part of our approach has always been to move fast so we can learn quickly and serve people better at scale. Recently things have accelerated. In the last year, we shipped Edits, and it has already passed 50 million actives. New apps like Forum and Seller were built by small teams and are scaling quickly to serve power users. Muse went from an idea on a whiteboard to a successful product in just about eight months. We are about to ship Muse Charm, which will have gone from concept to a hardware device in people's pockets in less than a year. I am proud of what we are building. People have all kinds of different opinions about the future, but at Meta, we believe that the future is for everyone, and that putting power in people's hands is how we get there. I think that this matters.
一直以来,我们方法论的一个重要部分就是快速行动,以便我们能够快速学习并规模化地更好服务用户。最近,一切都在加速。在过去 1 年里,我们发布了 Edits,其活跃用户数已经突破 5000 万。像 Forum 和 Seller 这样的新应用是由小团队构建的,并且正在快速扩展以服务重度用户。Muse 从白板上的一个想法变成一款成功的产品,只用了大约 8 个月时间。我们即将推出 Muse Charm,它从概念到成为人们口袋里的硬件设备只用了不到 1 年时间。我为我们正在构建的一切感到自豪。人们对未来有着各种不同的看法,但在 Meta,我们相信未来属于每一个人,而把力量交到人们手中正是我们实现这一目标的方式。我认为这件事意义重大。
P01712:56
There needs to be a company out there that represents these ideas. This isn't just about ideas, it's also about execution. I am grateful for everyone who is working so hard to deliver all of this to billions of people around the world. As always, thank you to everyone who is on this journey with us. Now here's Susan.
世界上需要有一家公司来代表这些理念。这不仅关乎理念,也关乎执行。我由衷感谢每一位辛勤工作、将这一切带给全球数十亿用户的同仁。一如既往,感谢与我们同行的每一个人。下面有请 Susan。
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Susan LiCFO
Thanks, Mark, and good afternoon, everyone. Let's begin with our segment results. All comparisons are on a year-over-year basis unless otherwise noted. Q3 total family of apps revenue was $64.2 billion, up 26%. Q3 family of apps ad revenue was $63.1 billion, up 26% on both a reported and constant currency basis. In Q3, the total number of ad impressions served across our services increased 10%. Impression growth was healthy across all regions, driven by growth in engagement and users, as well as ad load optimizations. The global average price per ad increased 14% year-over-year, driven by ad performance gains and improvements in macro conditions relative to Q3 of last year. This was partially offset by strong impression growth, particularly from lower monetizing surfaces and regions. Family of apps other revenue was $1.1 billion and grew 59%, driven primarily by WhatsApp paid messaging and subscriptions revenue.
谢谢 Mark,大家下午好。让我们从分部业绩开始。除非另有说明,所有比较均按同比口径进行。Q3 Family of Apps 总收入为 642 亿美元,增长 26%。Q3 Family of Apps 广告收入为 631 亿美元,按报告口径和固定汇率口径均增长 26%。在 Q3,我们各项服务展示的广告曝光总数增长了 10%。各地区的曝光量增长均表现健康,这得益于用户参与度和用户数量的增长,以及广告加载率的优化。全球平均每条广告价格(单价)同比增长 14%,主要由广告效果提升以及宏观环境较去年 Q3 有所改善所驱动。但这部分被强劲的曝光量增长所抵消,特别是来自变现率较低的版面和地区的曝光量增长。Family of Apps 其他收入为 11 亿美元,增长 59%,主要由 WhatsApp 付费消息和订阅收入所驱动。
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Within our Reality Labs segment, Q3 revenue was $443 million, down 6% due to lower Quest headset sales, which were partially offset by continued strong growth in AI glasses revenue. Moving now to our consolidated results. Q3 total revenue was $64.6 billion, up 26% on both a reported and constant currency basis. Q3 total expenses were $51.6 billion, up 68% compared to last year, and included a $9.9 billion charge related to the August 2026 multi-state attorneys general agreement. Year-over-year growth was primarily driven by legal-related costs, infrastructure costs, and third-party AI token costs. The growth in infrastructure costs was driven by higher third-party cloud spend, depreciation, and data center operating costs. We ended Q3 with over 66,000 employees, down 12% from Q2 following the May 2026 headcount reduction. Third quarter GAAP operating income was $13 billion, representing a 37% decline year-over-year and a 20% operating margin.
在我们的 Reality Labs 分部中,Q3 收入为 4.43 亿美元,下降 6%,原因是 Quest 头显销量下降,但 AI 眼镜收入持续强劲增长抵消了部分下滑。现在来看我们的合并业绩。Q3 总收入为 646 亿美元,按报告口径和固定汇率口径均增长 26%。Q3 总费用为 516 亿美元,较去年增长 68%,其中包括与 2026 年 8 月多州总检察长协议相关的 99 亿美元费用。费用的同比增长主要由法律相关成本、基础设施成本以及第三方 AI token 成本所驱动。基础设施成本的增长则是由更高的第三方云支出、折旧以及数据中心运营成本所驱动。在 2026 年 5 月缩减人员规模之后,我们在 Q3 末的员工人数超过 66,000 人,较 Q2 下降 12%。第 3 季度 GAAP 营业利润为 130 亿美元,同比下降 37%,营业利润率为 20%。
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Excluding the Q3 legal charges related to the aforementioned legal settlement, our third quarter operating income would have increased 11% year-over-year. Our tax rate for the quarter was 24%, above our outlook range, primarily driven by the non-deductible portion of legal expenses. Net income was $9.9 billion, or $3.83 per share. Capital expenditures, including principal payments on finance leases, were $34.9 billion, driven by investments in servers, data centers, and network infrastructure. Free cash flow was negative $2.1 billion. We ended the quarter with $82.4 billion in cash and marketable securities and $83.7 billion in debt. Turning now to the business performance. There are two primary factors that drive our revenue performance: our ability to deliver engaging experiences for our community and our effectiveness at monetizing that engagement over time. On the first, we continue to see significant gains from our content recommendation initiatives.
若剔除 Q3 与上述法律和解相关的法律费用,我们第 3 季度的营业利润将同比增长 11%。本季度的税率为 24%,高于我们的指引区间,主要原因是法律费用中不可抵扣的部分。净利润为 99 亿美元,即每股 3.83 美元。包括融资租赁本金偿还在内的资本开支为 349 亿美元,主要由对服务器、数据中心和网络基础设施的投资所驱动。自由现金流为 -21 亿美元。截至本季度末,我们持有现金及有价证券 824 亿美元,债务为 837 亿美元。现在转向业务表现。推动我们收入表现的主要因素有 2 个:我们为社区提供高参与度体验的能力,以及我们随时间推移将这种参与度有效变现的能力。在第 1 个因素上,我们继续从内容推荐举措中获得显著收益。
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On Instagram, global time spent per user reached an all-time high and grew double digits year-over-year in Q3, with strength across both Reels and Feed. On Facebook, Reels time spent reached all-time highs both globally and in the U.S., with both growing double digits year-over-year. Threads also continued to scale, with time spent per user growing over 20% year-over-year. Engagement gains across our services continue to be driven by improvements we are making to the relevance, personalization, and timeliness of the content we recommend. Investments into our recommendations engine across retrieval and ranking have continued to yield positive results on Instagram and Facebook.
在 Instagram 上,Q3 全球人均使用时长创下历史新高,并实现同比双位数增长,Reels 和 Feed 均表现强劲。在 Facebook 上,全球和美国的 Reels 使用时长均创下历史新高,且两者均实现同比双位数增长。Threads 也继续扩大规模,人均使用时长同比增长超过 20%。我们各项服务的参与度提升,继续得益于我们在所推荐内容的相关性、个性化和时效性方面所做的改进。我们在检索和排序两个环节对推荐引擎的投入,继续在 Instagram 和 Facebook 上产生积极成果。
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For instance, on Instagram Reels, our relevance launches in Q3 increased Reels time spent by over 4%, driven in part by our upgraded model architecture that ranks sequences of Reels at a time instead of evaluating each Reel independently, as well as improvements we made to add richer watch time signals. On Facebook Feed and Reels, we completed the global launch of a new generative retrieval architecture, which, inspired by LLMs, labels pieces of content with semantic representations and generates potential recommendations, helping our systems surface relevant new posts before they have accumulated significant engagement. This new architecture is now rolled out to roughly one-quarter of unconnected feed views and half of Reels views, and increased Reels watch time by 1%. Our recommendations work is also helping us deliver fresher and more personalized content.
例如,在 Instagram Reels 上,我们在 Q3 推出的相关性改进使 Reels 使用时长增加了 4% 以上,这在一定程度上得益于我们升级后的模型架构(该架构一次对一连串 Reels 进行排序,而不是独立评估每条 Reel),以及我们为增加更丰富的观看时长信号所做的改进。在 Facebook Feed 和 Reels 上,我们完成了全新生成式检索架构的全球上线;该架构受大语言模型(LLM)启发,用语义表征为内容片段打标签并生成潜在推荐,帮助我们的系统在相关新帖积累起大量互动之前就将其发掘出来。这一新架构目前已推广至约 1/4(25%)的非关注(unconnected)信息流浏览量和一半(50%)的 Reels 浏览量,并使 Reels 观看时长增加了 1%。我们的推荐工作还在帮助我们提供更新鲜、更个性化的内容。
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Nearly 45% of recommended Instagram Reels are now less than one day old, up more than 11 percentage points from Q2. On Facebook Reels, we doubled the amount of history our ranking model can consider, driving a 1% increase in Reels watch time in the U.S. LLMs are also helping us understand content more deeply. We continue to process public Instagram posts each day through LLM-based content understanding systems. These signals have improved the engagement with Instagram search results by 1% through the end of this quarter. This quarter, we also began moving our content understanding models onto our first-party Muse model family. In offline evaluations, these models are outperforming our prior production models and are reducing per-unit content processing costs by more than 80% across Instagram, Threads, Facebook, and ads.
目前,被推荐的 Instagram Reels 中有近 45% 发布时间不到 1 天,较 Q2 提升了超过 11 个百分点。在 Facebook Reels 上,我们将排序模型可考量的历史数据量扩大了 1 倍(变为原来的 2 倍),推动美国地区的 Reels 观看时长增加了 1%。大语言模型(LLM)还在帮助我们更深入地理解内容。我们每天继续通过基于 LLM 的内容理解系统处理公开的 Instagram 帖子。截至本季度末,这些信号使 Instagram 搜索结果的互动率提升了 1%。本季度,我们还开始将内容理解模型迁移到我们第 1 方(自研)的 Muse 模型家族。在离线评估中,这些模型的表现优于我们此前的生产环境模型,并使 Instagram、Threads、Facebook 和广告业务的单位内容处理成本降低了 80% 以上。
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Beyond improving quality, owning more of this stack gives us greater flexibility to develop models around the signals that matter the most for personalization. Turning to the second driver of our revenue performance, increasing monetization efficiency. We see significant opportunity to continue improving performance for the businesses who use our services. Within our ad systems, we are continuing to drive performance gains as we deploy more predictive models that understand users more deeply and deliver ad experiences better aligned with their unique preferences, while also making our infrastructure more efficient. Last quarter, we introduced Meta Generative Recommender, which uses LLMs to reason across ad content and user preferences to predict the best ad for each person. In Q3, we launched this approach to generative retrieval on Facebook Feed, driving a nearly 2% increase in conversions across targeted segments.
除了提升质量之外,掌控更多底层技术栈还为我们提供了更大的灵活性,使我们能够围绕对个性化最重要的信号来开发模型。下面转向推动我们收入表现的第 2 个因素:提升变现效率。我们看到在继续为使用我们服务的商家提升广告效果方面存在着巨大机会。在我们的广告系统内部,随着我们部署更具预测能力的模型(这些模型能更深入地理解用户,并提供更契合其独特偏好的广告体验),同时提升基础设施效率,我们正在持续推动广告效果的增长。上个季度,我们推出了 Meta Generative Recommender,它利用 LLM 对广告内容和用户偏好进行跨维度推理,从而预测最适合每个人的广告。在 Q3,我们将这种生成式检索方法上线到 Facebook Feed,推动目标细分群体的转化量增长了近 2%。
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In addition, we expanded our GEM model for ads ranking to additional surfaces, driving a 1.7% increase in conversions for off-site conversion campaigns and a 9.6% increase in app ad conversions. We continue to scale our retrieval systems efficiently. In Q3, improvements to Andromeda, such as scaling model complexity and throughput, increased conversions by 1.4% on Facebook. We are also leveraging AI to make it easier for businesses to manage campaigns, develop creative, and act on performance opportunities. Meta AI Business Assistant is becoming a more proactive and capable partner for advertisers. We estimate that advertisers who adopted its recommendations drove almost 5% more conversions at the same cost per conversion and increased their advertising investment by 9% compared with similar non-adopters. We are rolling out additional capabilities, including creative insights, stronger business context, and more agentic actions.
此外,我们将用于广告排序的 GEM 模型扩展到了更多版面,推动站外转化广告系列(off-site conversion campaigns)的转化量增长了 1.7%,应用广告(app ad)转化量增长了 9.6%。我们继续高效地扩展检索系统。在 Q3,对 Andromeda 的改进(例如扩大模型复杂度和吞吐量)使 Facebook 上的转化量增加了 1.4%。我们还在利用 AI 帮助商家更轻松地管理广告系列、开发创意素材并把握效果提升的机会。Meta AI Business Assistant 正在成为广告主更主动、更得力的合作伙伴。据我们估算,与类似的未采用者相比,采纳其建议的广告主在单次转化成本相同的情况下,转化量提高了近 5%,并将其广告投入增加了 9%。我们正在推出更多功能,包括创意洞察、更强的业务上下文理解以及更具代理能力(agentic)的操作。
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These features will allow marketers to plan, create, and optimize campaigns as well as schedule tasks and alerts through a conversational experience with approvals and previews that keep them in control. I will share one example of how Meta AI Business Assistant is empowering our advertisers. Simply Organic Maple, a family-run maple syrup producer in Vermont, used Meta AI Business Assistant to improve its campaign messaging. After the business assistant recommended testing longer, more descriptive advertising copy, the business saw a 57% increase in purchases and a 36% reduction in cost per purchase. Its strongest revised ad delivered a 3x return on ad spend, a 52% improvement from the original. Adoption of our generative AI ad creative tools also continues to scale. In Q3, nearly 10 million advertisers used at least one of these tools.
这些功能将允许营销人员通过对话式体验来规划、创建和优化广告系列,以及安排任务和提醒,并配有审批和预览机制以确保一切尽在掌握。我来分享 1 个关于 Meta AI Business Assistant 如何赋能广告主的例子。佛蒙特州的一家家族枫糖浆生产商 Simply Organic Maple 使用 Meta AI Business Assistant 改进了其广告系列文案。在该业务助手建议测试更长、更具描述性的广告文案后,该商家的购买量增加了 57%,单次购买成本降低了 36%。其表现最好的修改版广告实现了 3 倍的广告支出回报率(ROAS),较原版提升了 52%。我们的生成式 AI 广告创意工具的采用率也继续扩大。在 Q3,有近 1000 万广告主使用了其中至少 1 款工具。
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Advertiser adoption of our video generation features grew 25% quarter-over-quarter, driven in part by ready-made videos that reduce generation time to just a few seconds from a single image upload. We are also expanding the opportunity at the intersection of creators and advertising. Partnership ads, which allow advertisers to run ads with creators, brands, and other businesses, continued to scale rapidly in Q3. Our partnership ads product grew over 97% year-over-year and surpassed $15 billion in annual revenue run rate. In Q3, we also completed the global rollout of Creator Marketing Hub to all advertisers, bringing creator discovery, content organization, and partnership ad activation into one place with more than 10 million creators now discoverable. We are integrating Meta AI Business Assistant into the hub so advertisers can conversationally search for creators, identify content to use in partnership ads, and get guidance across their creator marketing workflows.
广告主对我们视频生成功能的采用率环比增长了 25%,部分得益于预制视频功能——只需上传 1 张图片,即可将生成时间缩短至短短几秒钟。我们还在扩大创作者与广告交叉领域的机会。允许广告主与创作者、品牌及其他商家联合投放广告的合作广告(Partnership ads)在 Q3 继续快速扩展。我们的合作广告产品同比增长超过 97%,年化收入运行率(annual revenue run rate)突破 150 亿美元。在 Q3,我们还完成了向所有广告主全球推广 Creator Marketing Hub 的工作,将创作者发掘、内容整理和合作广告激活整合到 1 个平台中,目前有超过 1000 万名创作者可供发掘。我们正在将 Meta AI Business Assistant 集成到该中心,以便广告主可以通过对话方式搜索创作者、识别可用于合作广告的内容,并在整个创作者营销工作流中获得指导。
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Outside of ads, we are also building out additional ways to monetize engagement across our ecosystem. In September, we announced the global expansion of Meta One, our unified subscription service for consumers, creators, and businesses. Meta One is rolling out gradually with more than 50 features across Instagram, Facebook, and WhatsApp, including Meta Business Agent and Meta AI, and has surpassed 15 million subscriptions and trials to date. The core experience across our apps and Meta AI will remain free, while subscriptions offer more specialized capabilities and expanded AI usage. Beyond monetizing engagement across our existing services, we are building new experiences and revenue streams around consumer agents. Mark highlighted the impressive early momentum with Muse. Users have found many reasons to use Muse, with the top three categories being shopping, personal productivity, and creativity.
在广告之外,我们也在构建更多方式来对整个生态系统的用户参与度进行变现。今年 9 月,我们宣布在全球范围内扩展面向消费者、创作者和商家的统一订阅服务 Meta One。Meta One 正在逐步推广,涵盖 Instagram、Facebook 和 WhatsApp 上的 50 多项功能(包括 Meta Business Agent 和 Meta AI),迄今为止订阅和试用总量已突破 1500 万。我们各应用和 Meta AI 的核心体验将继续免费,而订阅服务则提供更专业的功能和扩展的 AI 使用额度。除了在现有服务中对参与度进行变现外,我们还在围绕消费者智能体构建全新的体验和收入流。Mark 强调了 Muse 令人印象深刻的早期发展势头。用户找到了许多使用 Muse 的理由,排名前 3 的类别是购物、个人生产力和创意创作。
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We're encouraged by the breadth of use cases, with shopping in particular being used by over 25% of Muse weekly actives. While our near-term priority is to grow adoption and expand Muse's reach, we see multiple paths to monetization, beginning with subscriptions. We also see a significant opportunity to extend Muse to small businesses. Based on a recent user survey, we estimate that at least 500 million self-identified small businesses use Meta's family of apps to reach customers and generate revenue. Muse could help these businesses acquire customers and operate more efficiently while helping people complete transactions. Over time, consumer and business agents could connect and transact directly, creating opportunities around paid usage, commerce, and business services. Alongside growth, we are focused on building sustainable unit economics. Muse's compute intensity means that expanding its user base will require significant investment, and we expect total serving costs to rise.
我们对使用场景的广泛性感到鼓舞,尤其是购物功能,有超过 25% 的 Muse 周活跃用户在使用它。虽然我们近期的首要任务是提高采用率并扩大 Muse 的覆盖面,但我们看到了多条变现路径,首先是订阅服务。我们还看到将 Muse 扩展到小型企业的巨大机会。根据最近的一项用户调查,我们估计至少有 5 亿家自我认定的小型企业使用 Meta 的 Family of Apps 来触达客户并创造收入。Muse 可以帮助这些商家获取客户并更高效地运营,同时帮助人们完成交易。随着时间推移,消费者智能体和商家智能体可以直接连接并完成交易,从而围绕付费使用、商业交易和企业服务创造机会。在推进增长的同时,我们专注于建立可持续的单位经济效益。Muse 的高算力密集度意味着扩大其用户群将需要大量投资,我们预计总服务成本将会上升。
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At the same time, we expect to improve compute cost efficiency by more than tenfold over the next year, driven by better utilization of off-peak capacity, more efficient models, and inference optimization. As revenue scales, these efficiency gains give us confidence in our ability to build a highly profitable business over time. Moving now to our financial outlook. We expect fourth quarter 2026 total revenue to be in the range of $73 billion-$76 billion. Our guidance assumes foreign currency is an approximately 1% headwind to year-over-year total revenue growth based on current exchange rates. Turning to the expense and CapEx outlooks. We are raising our expense outlook to incorporate the $9.9 billion charge related to legal proceedings recognized in Q3. We now expect full year 2026 total expenses to be in the range of $175 billion-$179 billion.
与此同时,得益于非高峰期容量的更好利用、更高效的模型以及推理优化,我们预计在未来 1 年内将算力成本效率提高 10 倍以上。随着收入规模的扩大,这些效率提升让我们有信心随时间推移建立起一项高利润率的业务。现在来看我们的财务展望。我们预计 2026 年第 4 季度总收入将在 730 亿至 760 亿美元之间。基于当前汇率,我们的指引假设外汇汇率对总收入同比增长构成约 1% 的逆风。接下来看费用和资本开支展望。我们正在上调费用展望,以纳入 Q3 确认的与法律诉讼相关的 99 亿美元费用。我们目前预计 2026 年全年总费用将在 1750 亿至 1790 亿美元之间。
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Excluding the Q3 legal charge, we continue to expect 2026 operating income to be above 2025 operating income. At a segment level, we now expect Reality Labs losses to decline compared to 2025 to a range of $18 billion-$19 billion. We anticipate 2026 capital expenditures, including principal payments on finance leases, to be in the range of $135 billion-$145 billion, narrowed from our prior outlook of $130 billion-$145 billion. Absent any changes to our tax landscape, we expect our fourth quarter 2026 tax rate to be between 15% and 17%. Additionally, we continue to monitor active legal and regulatory matters that could significantly impact our business and financial results. For example, we continue to see scrutiny on youth-related issues in several markets and have a number of youth-related trials scheduled in the coming months in the U.S.
若剔除 Q3 的法律费用,我们继续预计 2026 年营业利润将高于 2025 年营业利润。在分部层面,我们目前预计 Reality Labs 的亏损将较 2025 年有所下降,降至 180 亿至 190 亿美元之间。我们预计 2026 年资本开支(包括融资租赁本金偿还)将在 1350 亿至 1450 亿美元之间,较此前 1300 亿至 1450 亿美元的指引区间有所收窄。在税收环境不发生变化的情况下,我们预计 2026 年第 4 季度税率将在 15% 至 17% 之间。此外,我们继续密切关注可能对我们业务和财务业绩产生重大影响的未决法律和监管事项。例如,我们在多个市场继续面临针对青少年相关问题的审查,并且未来几个月在美国有多起与青少年相关的庭审排期。
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P03227:26
Looking beyond 2026, we are still developing our budget and capacity plans for next year, but we expect to continue investing aggressively to support both our core business and emerging AI initiatives. Our current capacity and what is scheduled to come online gives us the flexibility to allocate resources across model training, core business growth, and the development and support of new products. Our AI investments are already delivering substantial incremental advertising revenue through stronger engagement, better recommendations, and more efficient monetization. Building on this progress, our MSL investments are creating the technology and infrastructure needed to unlock significant new revenue opportunities and strengthen capabilities across the business. While these investments will take longer to generate returns than those in our core business, the breadth of monetization opportunities and internal efficiencies gives us confidence in their long-term potential.
放眼 2026 年之后,我们仍在制定明年的预算和容量计划,但我们预计将继续积极投资,以同时支持我们的核心业务和新兴的 AI 举措。我们现有的容量以及计划上线的容量为我们提供了灵活性,使我们能够在模型训练、核心业务增长以及新产品的开发与支持之间调配资源。我们的 AI 投资已经通过更强的用户参与度、更精准的推荐和更高效的变现,带来了可观的增量广告收入。在此进展的基础上,我们在 MSL 方面的投资正在打造所需的技术和基础设施,以解锁重大的新收入机会并全面增强业务能力。虽然这些投资产生回报所需的时间比核心业务投资更长,但广泛的变现机会和内部效率提升让我们对其长期潜力充满信心。
P03328:23
Looking ahead, although we are not providing a full year 2027 revenue outlook, the benefits our AI investments are delivering to the core business, combined with emerging opportunities from model advances and product launches, position us to sustain strong overall revenue growth throughout 2027. Separately, we remain focused on improving Reality Labs profitability. As Mark mentioned, we expect losses to narrow next year to around $15 billion as we reallocate investment towards other priority areas, primarily AI. Finally, today we announced plans to create a new class of non-voting capital stock, which will be distributed to all existing shareholders through a stock dividend. For each existing share held, stockholders will receive one share of the new non-voting stock, effectively resulting in a two-for-one stock split. We expect trading to begin in late January 2027.
展望未来,尽管我们暂不提供 2027 年全年的收入展望,但我们的 AI 投资为核心业务带来的收益,加上模型进步和新产品发布所带来的新兴机会,使我们有能力在整个 2027 年保持强劲的整体收入增长。另外,我们依然专注于改善 Reality Labs 的盈利能力。正如 Mark 所提到的,随着我们将投资重新分配至其他优先领域(主要是 AI),我们预计明年亏损将收窄至约 150 亿美元。最后,今天我们宣布计划增设一类新的无投票权普通股(non-voting capital stock),将通过股票股利的形式向所有现有股东派发。股东每持有 1 股现有股票,将获得 1 股新的无投票权股票,这实际上相当于进行了 1 拆 2(2 比 1)的股票分割。我们预计该股票将于 2027 年 1 月下旬开始交易。
被引用:↩ FY2026Q3 季度复盘 · 结论摘要↩ FY2026Q3 季度复盘 · 分部表现↩ FY2026Q3 季度复盘 · 电话会要点 · 2. 前瞻指引与需求展望↩ FY2026Q3 季度复盘 · 电话会要点 · 5. 利润率、成本结构与股东回报↩ 估值 · 结论与需要跟踪的信号↩ FY2026Q3 电话会解析 · 核心判断↩ FY2026Q3 电话会解析 · 管理层发言解析 · Susan Li|CFO ×2↩ FY2026Q3 电话会解析 · 措辞与语气信号↩ 指引与语气 · 核心结论 ×2↩ 指引与语气 · 指引演变 · 下季营收(revenue_next_quarter)与 2027 年营收展望(revenue_next_year)↩ 指引与语气 · 指引演变 · 全年营业利润(operating_income_full_year)与 Reality Labs 亏损(reality_labs_loss)
P03429:22
In closing, our business momentum continued in Q3 with strong execution across our core ads and engagement initiatives, and we are also excited by our progress towards bringing personal superintelligence to everyone. With that, Krista, let us open up the call for questions.
最后总结一下,得益于我们在核心广告和用户参与度举措上的有力执行,我们的业务势头在 Q3 得以延续,同时我们也对向所有人提供个人超级智能所取得的进展感到振奋。那么,Krista,让我们开启提问环节吧。
问答环节
P03529:41
Operator
Thank you. We will now open the lines for a question and answer session. To ask a question, please press star one on your touch-tone phone. To withdraw your question, you may press star one again. Please limit yourself to one question. Please pick up your handset before asking your question to ensure clarity. If you are streaming today's call, please mute your computer speakers. Your first question comes from the line of Brian Nowak with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
谢谢。我们现在开放线路进入问答环节。如需提问,请按按键式电话上的星号键加 1。如需撤回提问,请再次按星号键加 1。请每位提问者仅限提 1 个问题。提问前请拿起听筒以确保声音清晰。如果您正在通过网络直播收听今天的电话会议,请将电脑扬声器静音。您的第 1 个问题来自 Morgan Stanley 的 Brian Nowak。请讲。
P03630:09
Brian NowakAnalyst, Morgan Stanley
Thanks for taking my questions. I have two, one on Muse, one on Enterprise. Maybe at first, congrats on the success of Muse.
感谢接受我的提问。我有 2 个问题,1 个关于 Muse,1 个关于 Enterprise。首先祝贺 Muse 取得成功。
P03730:16
As you analyze the user behavior and the product, can you talk with us a little bit about any of the constraints to the slope of forward user growth that you're most focused on addressing, whether it's capabilities, model efficiency, capacity, et cetera, just so we understand what are the limiting factors to forward user growth that you want to address? The second one is on enterprise. Mark, can you sort of walk us through your vision for the Meta Enterprise platform offering and the key value drivers you hope to provide for the enterprises adopting the service?
当你们分析用户行为和这款产品时,能否和我们谈谈在未来用户增长曲线的制约因素中,你们最集中精力解决的是哪些问题——究竟是功能特性、模型效率、算力容量还是其他方面?以便我们了解你们想要解决的未来用户增长限制因素是什么。第 2 个问题是关于企业业务的。Mark,你能否为我们梳理一下你对 Meta Enterprise 平台产品的愿景,以及你希望为采用该服务的企业提供哪些核心价值驱动力?
P03830:49
Mark ZuckerbergCEO
Yeah, I think I can talk about both of those, and then Susan can jump in with anything else. Right now for Muse, one of the things I pointed out is we have more than 10 million people in the U.S. and Canada who have set it up, but I think one of the biggest constraints so far is that because this is a compute-intensive service to run, we have not launched it globally yet. That's partially because of wanting to optimize it for each place, and there's some workaround connectors for that. But it's partially that we want to make sure that we do this efficiently. I mean, there's pros and cons there.
好的,我想我可以谈谈这 2 个问题,然后 Susan 可以补充其他内容。目前对于 Muse 而言,我指出过的其中 1 件事是,我们在美国和加拿大已经有超过 1000 万人设置了它;但我认为到目前为止最大的制约因素之 1 是,由于运行这项服务非常消耗算力,我们还没有在全球范围内推出它。这一方面是因为我们希望针对每个地区对其进行优化,而且为此需要做一些连接器方面的适配工作;但另一方面也是因为我们希望确保以高效的方式推进这件事。我的意思是,这样做有利有弊。
P03931:29
The pro, of course, is that just makes it even more impressive that you have 10 million people using it and signing up to use it in the first six weeks, because those are all Americans and Canadians in a small number of markets. If we actually did roll it out more broadly, then you would expect that number to be significantly larger than what we're seeing today. On the flip side, we actually have to go do the work to bring the efficiency in line to make that make sense. That's a big part of it that we need to do.
当然,这样做的好处在于,它让“在前 6 周内就有 1000 万人注册并使用它”这一成绩显得更加令人赞叹,因为这些用户全部来自美国和加拿大这少数几个市场。如果我们真的在更广泛的范围内推广它,那么你完全可以预期这个数字会比我们今天看到的大得多。但另一方面,我们确实必须先做好相关工作,把效率提升到合理水平,才能让广泛推广在经济上行得通。这是我们需要去做的很大一部分工作。
P04032:05
The compute efficiency work is going to be important on this also because we want to make sure that we've built enough compute to be able to serve what we think is going to be a billion plus people if we can achieve certain compute efficiency targets. But we obviously have a lot of work to do there as well, and that'll be one of the limiting factors over the next year. We want to build out the business around it. I mean, I talked about that, and I think doing that in tandem with bringing down the compute or increasing the compute efficiency is going to be important for getting this to work from a business perspective, which I'm optimistic about. But I think that that's one of the things that we need to do.
算力效率方面的工作对此也将非常重要,因为我们希望确保建设足够的算力,以便在达成特定算力效率目标的前提下,能够服务我们认为将达到 10 亿以上的用户规模。但显然我们在这方面还有很多工作要做,这将成为未来 1 年的限制因素之 1。我们希望围绕它构建商业闭环。我刚才也谈到了这一点,我认为将构建商业模式与降低算力消耗或提升算力效率同步推进,对于从商业角度跑通这件事至关重要,我对这一点持乐观态度。但我认为这是我们需要做好的事情之 1。
P04132:46
There's just continuing to increase the value in the product, which I think we will largely do by continuing to develop new models. That's why I mentioned that we launched Muse first on Muse Spark, and that's what is currently the default across the free tier. We rolled out Muse Wonder, and people can access that in the paid tier today. We know that it performs a lot better, so we're working on getting a more efficient version of Muse Wonder that we'll be able to roll out more broadly.
此外就是持续提升产品的价值,我认为这很大程度上将通过不断开发新模型来实现。这就是为什么我提到我们首先在 Muse Spark 上推出了 Muse,这也是目前免费层的默认模型。随后我们推出了 Muse Wonder,现在付费层用户可以使用它。我们知道它的表现要好得多,因此我们正在研发一个更高效率版本的 Muse Wonder,以便能够更广泛地向用户推广。
P04233:17
You can imagine just as we iterate forward and two, three models into the future, when you have significantly higher intelligence and capability to solve many more problems for people and the ability to deliver that at a much more affordable price point, I think that that's going to just unlock a lot more value to people. So we're very excited about that. Transitioning to talking about the enterprise piece, because I think that these two pieces, there is some connection here, in that the main enterprise offering in the near term is going to be the model API in Muse Code. We have business agents that we've been scaling for a while, and each of those three things is growing quite quickly, so we're excited about that.
你可以想象,随着我们不断向前迭代,再往后发展 2 到 3 代模型,当模型具备高得多的智能水平和能力、能够为人们解决多得多的问题,并且我们能够以实惠得多的价格提供这种能力时,我认为这将会为人们解锁大得多的价值。因此我们对此感到非常振奋。接下来谈谈企业级业务(Enterprise)部分,因为我认为这 2 个部分之间存在一定的联系:短期内我们主要的企业级产品将是模型 API 和 Muse Code。我们一直在扩展商家智能体(business agents),而且这 3 项业务每一项都在相当快速地增长,所以我们对此感到非常兴奋。
P04334:04
Over time, we would like to make it so that we have a whole business network of Muse agents as well. There's the business agent, which we've talked about on previous earnings calls for businesses to help out with sales and customer support. What we see is a lot of people are actually using Muse today to help run especially small businesses. We think that there's both an opportunity to help create an agent that people use to really enable them to automate and do a lot of the parts of spinning up a small business that are just difficult and time-consuming but aren't the core thing that a person is trying to do. So we think that's a big deal. Making a version of Muse that people can bring into different corporate environments and work there, we think is going to be a big deal.
随着时间推移,我们也希望建立起一个完整的 Muse 智能体商业网络。我们在之前的财报电话会议上谈到过商家智能体,它可以帮助商家处理销售和客户支持工作。而我们现在看到的是,实际上今天已经有很多人在使用 Muse 来帮助经营企业,尤其是小型企业。我们认为这里存在着双重机会:一是帮助创建一个供人们使用的智能体,真正赋能他们去自动化完成创办和经营小型企业过程中许多繁琐、耗时但又并非创业者核心焦点的事务,我们认为这意义重大;二是打造一个可以让人们带入不同企业办公环境并在其中工作的 Muse 版本,我们认为这也将是一件大事。
P04434:53
Beyond that, building what I refer to as the Muse network, which is making it so that Muse is not just a single-player game where you have your Muse, but making it so that your Muses can work with your friends and your families. If you want to buy something, it's not just navigating to that business's website, it's talking to their agent. I think that getting that all to work well together is going to unlock tremendous value at scale. So I'm very excited about all of that. I think the enterprise use is going to be a big part of it, but it's also going to have this very valuable boost in the utility for consumers, too. So I'm very excited about both of those.
除此之外,就是构建我所说的 Muse 网络——让 Muse 不仅仅是一个你只拥有自己 Muse 的单人(1 人)游戏,而是让你的 Muse 可以与你的朋友和家人的 Muse 协同工作。如果你想买东西,不再只是跳转到那个商家的网站,而是直接与他们的智能体对话。我认为让这一切良好地协同运转,将在规模化之后释放出巨大的价值。因此我对这一切都感到非常振奋。我认为企业级应用将成为其中很大的一部分,同时它也将为消费者端的实用性带来非常有价值的提升。所以我对这两方面都充满期待。
P04535:33
Susan LiCFO
I would add to Mark's comments on enterprise. AI is creating huge amounts of disruption in enterprise today. From what we can see, we really don't believe that traditional enterprise companies have this locked down. In fact, some of the leading companies in this space today didn't exist a few years ago. Those companies made large investments in model development, and we've done the same, and we have increasingly competitive models to bring to bear for the benefit of all of our users, including small businesses and including enterprises. Already today, we have 500 million businesses using our product. We really believe that AI is going to reshape how businesses operate. We expect that businesses of all sizes are going to use AI agents across software development and productivity, sales, marketing, customer service, et cetera.
我想对 Mark 关于企业级业务的评论做一点补充。今天,AI 正在企业级市场引发巨大的颠覆。从我们观察到的情况来看,我们认为传统企业服务公司并未牢牢锁定这一市场。事实上,如今该领域的一些领先公司在几年前甚至还不存在。那些公司在模型开发上进行了巨额投资,我们也同样如此,而且我们拥有竞争力日益增强的模型,可以用来造福我们所有的用户,包括小型企业和大型企业。在今天,我们已经拥有 5 亿家使用我们产品的商家。我们坚信 AI 将重塑企业的运营方式。我们预计,各种规模的企业都将在软件开发与生产力、销售、营销、客户服务等各个领域使用 AI 智能体。
P04636:22
We have differentiated assets to serve this market, bringing together models, infrastructure, global distribution, and long-standing relationships with businesses. It's our hope that this will be able to be a new diversified, recurring revenue stream for us that will be able to support multiple business models, including subscriptions and usage-based API and messaging and other revenue lines. We expect that this will be an opportunity that will develop over multiple years, and we intend to scale our investment behind demonstrated customer demand and product market fit in this area.
我们拥有服务这一市场的差异化资产,将模型、基础设施、全球分发能力以及与商家的长期合作关系融为一体。我们希望这将成为我们一项全新的、多元化的经常性收入流,能够支持多种商业模式,包括订阅、基于使用量的 API、消息服务以及其他收入线。我们预计这一机会将在多年时间内逐步发展成熟,并且我们打算在看到该领域明确的客户需求和产品市场契合度(PMF)后,进一步扩大投资规模。
P04736:59
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Eric Sheridan with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
您的下一个问题来自 Goldman Sachs 的 Eric Sheridan。请讲。
P04837:05
Eric SheridanAnalyst, Goldman Sachs
Thanks so much for taking the questions. Maybe just the first one building on Brian's question, when you think about the friction points around agentic commerce, how do you guys as a company think about solving for friction that's rising where there are aggregators or suppliers that don't want agents to interact with their platforms or their services, and how you think about lowering that friction or creating the right balance between the existing services that consumers access today relative to how this might all be changed or altered by agentic behavior over the medium to long term?
非常感谢接受我的提问。第 1 个问题想在 Brian 的问题基础上进一步探讨:当你们思考围绕代理式商业(agentic commerce)的摩擦点时,如果遇到某些聚合平台或供应商不希望智能体与其平台或服务进行交互,导致摩擦上升,你们作为一家公司打算如何解决这些摩擦?在中长期内,随着代理式行为可能改变或重塑这一切,你们如何思考降低这种摩擦,或者在消费者如今访问的现有服务与未来的代理式交互之间建立恰当的平衡?
P04937:39
And the second one would be with the announcement of the new class of shares tonight with earnings, any updated thoughts broadly about how you think about sources of capital and optimizing your capital structure to make sure you invest the proper amounts to capitalize on the opportunities that AI are presenting in the next couple of years? Thanks so much.
第 2 个问题是,结合今晚随财报一同宣布增设新类别股票的消息,你们在更广泛的层面上对于资本来源以及优化资本结构有哪些最新思考,以确保你们投入恰当规模的资金,充分把握未来几年 AI 所呈现的机遇?非常感谢。
P05038:02
Mark ZuckerbergCEO
I can answer the first one. Sorry, what was the first question there?
我可以回答第 1 个问题。抱歉,第 1 个问题具体是什么来着?
P05138:12
Susan LiCFO
Friction points around agentic commerce.
围绕代理式商业的摩擦点。
P05238:14
Mark ZuckerbergCEO
Yeah. Got it. All right. Yeah. So right now what we're seeing is that overwhelmingly businesses are very excited about enabling this because they recognize that it's going to be a new opportunity for them not only to increase the sales and the quality of the experience for existing customers, but also potentially to bring in new customers. So I mean, across the whole business ecosystem, different people will kind of adopt this at different paces. And how our strategy evolves on that to develop the ecosystem will depend on how that goes. But overall, I would say we've been very positively surprised by how quickly, I think a huge amount of businesses have wanted to not only figure out how to make it so that Muse can use their services more effectively but have reached out to us to integrate around it.
好的,明白了。好的。目前我们看到的情况是,绝大多数商家对于支持这一功能都感到非常兴奋,因为他们认识到这不仅是为现有客户增加销售额和提升体验质量的新机会,而且还有可能带来新客户。当然,在整个商业生态系统中,不同商家采纳这一模式的步伐会有所不同。我们培育这一生态系统的战略如何演进,也将取决于这一进程的发展情况。但总体而言,我想说我们感到非常惊喜的是,有数量极其庞大的商家不仅希望弄清楚如何让 Muse 更有效地使用他们的服务,而且还主动联系我们以围绕它进行集成开发。
P05339:16
I view that as a very good sign. Not everyone wants to be an early adopter. That is fine. We will work with folks on the terms that makes sense for them. I do think that over time this is going to be quite valuable for everyone to make this work well, and I think we are on a good trajectory on that so far.
我把这看作是一个非常积极的信号。并不是每个人都想成为早期采用者,这完全没问题。我们会根据对各方都合理的条款与大家开展合作。我确实认为,随着时间推移,让这一机制顺畅运转对所有人来说都将非常有价值,而且我认为到目前为止我们在这方面正处于良好的发展轨道上。
P05439:33
Susan LiCFO
I would add to that, and I will also answer your second question and just say I think agents are going to be an important part of how reality evolves, and I think everyone is going to have to adapt to what that means, the new age of agentic commerce. We obviously have had a lot of businesses who are very excited to partner with us. There are also businesses that are understandably focused on protecting customer relationships, and we expect the market I think ultimately to evolve away from agents attempting to navigate every digital experience like a human. I think over the long run, this will move towards more permissioned, structured interactions, and that will include authenticated APIs, approved agent partnerships, or direct communications between a consumer's personal agent and a business's own agent. We are helping establish the standards needed to support that model.
我来补充一点,同时也回答你的第 2 个问题。我想说,智能体将成为现实演进过程中的重要组成部分,我认为每个人都必须适应代理式商业(agentic commerce)新时代所代表的意义。显然,我们已经有很多非常期待与我们合作的商家;同时,也有一些商家合情合理地专注于保护自身的客户关系。我们预计,市场最终将不再局限于由智能体尝试像人类一样去浏览每一个数字体验。我认为从长远来看,这将朝着更加基于授权(permissioned)、更加结构化的交互方向演进,其中将包括经过身份验证的 API、经批准的智能体合作关系,或者消费者的个人智能体与商家自身智能体之间的直接通信。我们正在协助建立支持这一模式所需的标准。
P05540:25
Earlier this month, we previewed the Personal Agent Protocol, an open standard across Muse and Meta Business Agents that we are developing with industry partners like Sierra, Walmart, Stripe, Shopify, et cetera. The protocol is intended to define how a consumer's personal agent can interact securely and reliably with the business's agent and preserve appropriate controls for both the business and customer. Again, I think adoption will likely be uneven and will take time, and in the near term we expect many experiences will remain AI-assisted rather than fully autonomous. As trusted integrations develop and agents demonstrate that they can generate incremental value and demand and operate safely, we expect that more and more businesses will be excited to participate. Your second question was about the announcement of the new class of shares.
本月早些时候,我们预览了个人智能体协议(Personal Agent Protocol),这是我们正在与 Sierra、Walmart、Stripe、Shopify 等行业合作伙伴共同开发的一项横跨 Muse 和 Meta Business Agents 的开放标准。该协议旨在定义消费者的个人智能体如何安全、可靠地与商家的智能体进行交互,并为商家和客户双方保留适当的控制权。同样,我认为采用过程很可能会是不均衡的,并且需要一定时间;在短期内,我们预计许多体验仍将是 AI 辅助式的,而非完全自主的。随着受信任的集成不断完善,且智能体证明其能够创造增量价值和需求并安全运行,我们预计会有越来越多的商家踊跃参与。你的第 2 个问题是关于宣布增设新类别股票。
P05641:24
I should say we created this new class of shares with the purpose of creating a publicly traded non-voting stock usable for capital raising, employee compensation, acquisitions, other general corporate purposes while preserving the voting power of existing Class A and B shareholders. We believe the share class will maintain our founder-led structure. It will expand our funding tools and give us flexibility to invest behind the unprecedented momentum we are seeing across every part of our business driven by AI. We do not have any specific financing plans to announce at this time, but we thought it was prudent to establish the appropriate capital structure framework to ensure that we have access to a diverse pool of funding sources.
我应该说明,我们创设这一新类别股票的目的,是建立一种公开交易的无投票权股票,可用于融资、员工薪酬、收购以及其他一般企业用途,同时保留现有 A 类和 B 类股东的投票权。我们认为,这一股票类别将维持我们由创始人主导的治理结构,扩充我们的融资工具箱,并为我们提供灵活性,使我们能够围绕 AI 在公司各个业务板块所推动的空前发展势头进行投资。目前我们没有任何具体的融资计划要宣布,但我们认为,建立适当的资本结构框架以确保我们能够获得多元化的资金来源,是审慎之举。
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P05742:09
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Doug Anmuth with J.P. Morgan. Please go ahead.
您的下一个问题来自 J.P. Morgan 的 Doug Anmuth。请讲。
P05842:16
Doug AnmuthAnalyst, J.P. Morgan
Great. Thanks for taking the questions. I have two. First, just wanted to follow up on your last comment, Susan. Just around as Muse evolves and more businesses adopt agents, just wanted to get your sense of how things change and shift as you go to more permission-based and agent-to-agent transactions, and what does that really unlock over time. Then secondly, just on expenses and CapEx, thinking about 2027, I know you're not really there yet, but if I go back to some previous comments, you've talked about maximizing compute in 2026 and 2027 and then having more flexibility in 2028. A year ago, you talked about notably larger dollar increase in 2026 than 2025, and then you've also used growing operating income on an annual basis as well.
太好了,感谢接受提问。我有 2 个问题。第 1,Susan,我想跟进一下你刚才的评论。随着 Muse 的演进以及更多商家采用智能体,我想了解在你看来,当交易转向更多基于授权(permission-based)以及智能体对智能体(agent-to-agent)的模式时,情况会发生怎样的变化和转移?随时间推移这真正能解锁什么?第 2,关于费用和资本开支,展望 2027 年,我知道你们现在还没有完全确定,但如果回顾之前的一些评论,你们曾谈到在 2026 年和 2027 年最大化算力建设,然后在 2028 年拥有更多灵活性。1 年前,你们曾谈到 2026 年的绝对金额增长将显著大于 2025 年,同时你们也曾采用实现年度营业利润增长的表述。
P05943:10
Just curious if there's any of those that you can tie or to help us think about 2027. Thanks.
我很好奇你们是否能将这些线索串联起来,或者帮助我们思考 2027 年的情况。谢谢。
P06043:18
Susan LiCFO
Thanks, Doug. So on your first question about how the agentic ecosystem evolves, I wish I could sort of predict that more perfectly. I think it will take some time, and again, I think it will be a little uneven. But I definitely think that, when I use Muse today, it's clear that there are a lot of parts of the experience that would be even better if Muse was able to interact more seamlessly with business agents on the other side. For example, if Muse has to call a business on my behalf, I think it would be easier for the business if that call was handled by business agents that were representing it.
谢谢你,Doug。关于你提出的智能体生态系统如何演进的第 1 个问题,真希望我能更完美地做出预测。我认为这需要一些时间,而且同样地,我认为发展过程会有些不均衡。但我确实认为,当我今天使用 Muse 时,很明显如果 Muse 能够与另一端的商家智能体更无缝地交互,体验中的许多环节还会变得更好。例如,如果 Muse 需要代表我给一家商家打电话,我认为如果这通电话是由代表该商家的商家智能体来接听处理,对商家来说也会更加轻松。
P06143:55
I think also one of the things that is really distinctive about Muse, and one of the things that makes the product experience so great, is the degree of proactivity that it exhibits on my behalf, right? I can give it a task and Muse is going to go execute against that task for me, even as it encounters some obstacles or can't quite find the right thing and needs to chart a new path to helping me look for the thing I want.
我还认为,Muse 真正与众不同的特点之 1,也是让产品体验如此出色的原因之 1,是它代表我所展现出的主动性程度,对吧?我可以交给它一项任务,Muse 就会去为我执行这项任务,哪怕它在过程中遇到了一些障碍,或者一时找不到完全合适的东西,它也会规划出一条新路径来帮我寻找我想要的东西。
P06244:21
I think that sort of dimension of proactivity exhibited by either consumer agents or business agents, I think, are going to enable more transactions to happen or more activity to happen broadly than happens today where when more actions are taken, primarily when the latent demand expresses itself versus things where I can have Muse searching for things for me on an ongoing basis, giving me regular updates on things I'm looking for, sending me 10 new books a month. Agents should be doing similar things for businesses, and I think that creates sort of opportunities again for a new, more proactive sort of framework for what agent-to-agent interactions look like over time. On your second question, which is about 2027, we are quite early in developing our budget and capacity plans for next year.
我认为,无论是消费者智能体还是商家智能体所展现出的这种主动性维度,都将促成比今天多得多的交易或更广泛的活动。今天的情况是,只有当潜在需求被明确表达出来时,人们才会采取更多行动;而在新的模式下,我可以让 Muse 持续不断地为我搜寻信息,定期向我更新我正在寻找的事物动态,或者每个月向我推荐 10 本新书。智能体也应该为商家做类似的事情,我认为这将再次为智能体与智能体之间(agent-to-agent)随时间推移形成一种全新的、更主动的交互框架创造机会。关于你提出的有关 2027 年的第 2 个问题,目前我们在制定明年的预算和容量计划方面还处于相当早期的阶段。
P06345:17
We are, I would say, at the point where we are both evaluating a lot of investment proposals that have attractive return profiles over different time horizons. We want to figure out how we can fund as many of those as possible within the construct of our overall budget and financial goals. But it's very dynamic, and it's still pretty early, and so we don't have anything more specific or quantitative to share until we get to the Q4 call, which is typically when we share guidance for the next year.
应该说,我们目前正在评估大量的投资提案,这些提案在不同的时间维度上都具有颇具吸引力的回报前景。我们希望弄清楚,在整体预算和财务目标的框架内,如何为尽可能多的此类项目提供资金支持。但这一过程非常动态,而且目前还处于相当早期的阶段,因此在 Q4 财报电话会议(这通常是我们分享下一年业绩指引的时间点)之前,我们还没有更具体或定量的信息可以分享。
P06445:53
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Justin Post with Bank of America. Please go ahead.
您的下一个问题来自 Bank of America 的 Justin Post。请讲。
P06545:59
Justin PostAnalyst, Bank of America
Great, thanks. One for Mark, one for Susan. Mark, you've got this powerful new model on your hands, and it seems like there is a lot you could do internally besides externally. Specifically to the ad business, you've rearchitected your systems around AI. How much room is there for improvement as you deploy that new model? How are you thinking about that? Then for Susan, you mentioned strong revenue growth next year. Just wondering if that's advertising or does that incorporate some incremental AI revenues hitting next year? Thank you.
太好了,谢谢。我有 1 个问题问 Mark,1 个问题问 Susan。Mark,你们手头拥有这款强大的新模型,除了对外提供服务之外,看起来在公司内部也有很多用武之地。具体到广告业务,你们已经围绕 AI 重构了系统架构。当你们部署这款新模型时,还有多大的改进空间?你们对此是怎么思考的?另外问一下 Susan,你提到了明年强劲的收入增长。我想知道这主要是指广告业务,还是已经纳入了明年即将落地的一些增量 AI 收入?谢谢。
P06646:34
Susan LiCFO
I'm happy to take both of those.
我很乐意回答这 2 个问题。
P06746:37
Justin PostAnalyst, Bank of America
Go for it.
请讲。
P06846:37
Susan LiCFO
Great. On your first question, I think our ads business has been benefiting for now many years from our ongoing investments in both what we would have called traditional AI machine learning models, and then, of course, from the more recent generation of models. I would say that there are three themes there that I think are worth outlining. The first is just the kind of traditional roadmap of performance improvements that we have in the pipeline. That is what I would describe more as business-as-usual machine learning work. That continues to be a robust and healthy pipeline, and as we are looking into 2027, again, we're not providing an outlook, but I would say that our investments and product improvements across both engagement and ads initiatives give us confidence that we have a meaningful runway to grow our core business throughout 2027.
好的。关于你的第 1 个问题,我认为我们的广告业务多年来一直受益于我们对所谓传统 AI 机器学习模型的持续投资,当然也受益于最近几代新模型的投入。我想说,这方面有 3 个值得梳理的主题。第 1 个主题是我们研发管线中传统的广告效果改进路线图,我更倾向于将其描述为日常的机器学习工作。这依然是一条强劲且健康的管线;当我们展望 2027 年时——虽然我们目前不提供具体业绩指引——但我想说,我们在用户参与度和广告举措两方面的投资与产品改进,让我们有信心在整个 2027 年拥有可观的增长空间来推动核心业务增长。
P06947:36
That also gets to your second question also. I should say, basically, I think the ranking and recommendations pipeline is healthy. The second theme I would say is that we are excited about some of the new research bets that we have as we move into sort of a more LLM-oriented AI infrastructure to help us more deeply reason about people's preferences, what they're interested in, both across organic content and recommendations. We expect that we will be able to unlock benefits to our ranking and recommendations engine from that research too. The third thing is that we expect that generative AI tools, which have already been very valuable for advertisers, will continue to grow in terms of the features that we make available to advertisers, primarily through the Advantage+ suite.
这也涉及到了你的第 2 个问题。基本上,我认为我们的排序和推荐管线非常健康。我想说的第 2 个主题是,随着我们向更加以大语言模型(LLM)为导向的 AI 基础设施演进,我们对目前推进的一些新研究押注感到振奋,这些研究有助于我们无论在自然内容还是推荐内容上,都能更深入地推理用户的偏好以及他们感兴趣的事物。我们预计,这项研究也将为我们的排序和推荐引擎解锁更多收益。第 3 点是,生成式 AI 工具已经为广告主创造了巨大价值,我们预计主要通过 Advantage+ 套件向广告主提供的相关功能将继续增长。
P07048:26
Features that make it easier for advertisers to quickly and seamlessly generate, whether it is creative or take an image and generate video or generate sound, all, I think, in service of making the ads increasingly personalized for the person that they're being served to. So I would say we feel like there is meaningful runway across all three of those things. Your second question was about revenue growth next year, and so as I mentioned, I think we're both feeling good about the budget investments that we expect we will make in both core ads and engagement initiatives next year. We're also building several new AI businesses, and we expect that those can begin contributing incremental revenue in 2027, but more importantly, can scale meaningfully over time.
这些功能让广告主能够更轻松、快速且无缝地生成内容——无论是广告创意,还是凭一张图片生成视频或生成音频——我认为所有这一切都是为了让广告对接收它的用户而言变得越来越个性化。因此我想说,我们觉得在这 3 个方面都有着可观的增长空间。你的第 2 个问题是关于明年的收入增长;正如我所提到的,我们对预计明年在核心广告和用户参与度举措两方面进行的预算投资都感到很有信心。同时,我们也正在构建几项新的 AI 业务,我们预计这些业务可以在 2027 年开始贡献增量收入,但更重要的是,随时间推移它们能够实现显著的规模化扩展。
P07149:15
Those will include monetizing our AI products through subscriptions, transactions, advertising, developing enterprise offerings, as we talked about in one of the earlier questions. So I would say while many of these opportunities remain early and our near-term focus is really on building high-quality products and achieving product market fit and scaled product market fit, I think our track record of reaching billions of people and building businesses at scale makes us feel good that AI is going to become a meaningful source of revenue diversification over time.
正如我们在前面其中 1 个问题中谈到的,这些举措将包括通过订阅、交易、广告来变现我们的 AI 产品,以及开发企业级产品。因此我想说,尽管其中许多机会仍处于早期阶段,且我们近期的重心确实是打造高质量产品并实现产品市场契合度(PMF)以及规模化的产品市场契合度,但我认为我们在触达数十亿用户和规模化打造业务方面的往绩记录,让我们有充分理由相信,随着时间推移,AI 将成为实现收入多元化的重要来源。
P07249:50
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Mark Shmulik with Bernstein. Please go ahead.
您的下一个问题来自 Bernstein 的 Mark Shmulik。请讲。
P07349:56
Mark ShmulikAnalyst, Bernstein
Yes. Thanks for taking my questions. Mark, coming out of Connect, it kind of felt like we were ushering in the next era of the company, and the business reorienting around Muse at the center of everything. Is that a fair assessment of how things are going internally? If so, can you just talk a little bit more about how some of the business mandates and outcomes may have changed? Susan, it was interesting to see the launch cadence where enterprise announcements kind of preceded some of the small business ones. I appreciate your comments on some of what's going on there around the SMB agent opportunity, but can you just share more details on the work required to serve and scale the offerings to SMBs? Thank you.
好的,感谢接受我的提问。Mark,在 Connect 大会之后,给人的感觉是我们正在开启公司的下一个时代,整个业务正在以 Muse 为一切的核心进行重新定位。这样评估公司内部的进展情况是否公允?如果是的话,你能否多谈谈一些业务指令和目标成果可能发生了怎样的变化?另外问一下 Susan,很有意思的是,在发布节奏上,企业级产品的发布似乎早于一些面向小型企业的产品。感谢你刚才就中小型企业(SMB)智能体机会所做的分享,但你能否进一步分享一下,为了服务中小型企业并将产品向其规模化推广,具体需要做哪些工作?谢谢。
P07450:38
Mark ZuckerbergCEO
Yeah, I can talk briefly about the first one. Look, it was more than a year ago that I think I wrote the letter about personal superintelligence as the North Star for the work that we're doing here. It basically fits with this line of work that we've done for more than 20 years at the company that is focused on empowering individuals, giving people a voice, giving people the tools to connect in the ways that they want. When you extend that to the work around AI now, we think that the most important thing that we can be building for this next generation of technology is basically putting the power of this technology in everyone's hands, which is the personal superintelligence vision.
好的,我可以简要谈谈第 1 个问题。要知道,早在 1 年多以前,我就写过那封公开信,提出把个人超级智能作为我们在这里所做工作的北极星指标。这基本上与我们在公司坚持了超过 20 年的工作主线一脉相承——那就是专注于赋能个人、赋予人们发声的渠道、为人们提供按照自己意愿建立连接的工具。当你将这一理念延伸到现在围绕 AI 开展的工作时,我们认为在下一代技术浪潮中,我们所能构建的最重要的事情,基本上就是把这项技术的力量交到每个人手中,这正是个人超级智能的愿景。
P07551:29
We've been working on this for a while, and this is when we did the reboot around MSL and building the lab. A lot of it was this idea that we need to build models specifically to be good as personal agents, that we'd be able to build the best experience by owning and building and designing ourselves the end-to-end technology. So that includes the models and then the agents. This has kind of been in the works for a while. The vision around the glasses has also been this. We've wanted to build the next generation of hardware platforms so that we can deliver the best end-to-end experiences to people. I think that that's starting to come together as well, and I think will even more over the coming years. So these are long-term bets.
我们推进这项工作已经有一段时间了,也就是围绕 MSL 进行重组并建立实验室的时候。其中很大一部分理念在于,我们需要专门构建适合作为个人智能体的模型,并且通过自主掌控、构建和设计端到端的技术,我们才能够打造出最佳体验。因此这既包括模型,也包括智能体。这项工作其实已经筹备了一段时间。围绕智能眼镜的愿景也是如此。我们一直希望构建下一代硬件平台,以便向人们提供最佳的端到端体验。我认为这一块也开始逐步成型,而且在未来几年还会结合得更加紧密。所以这些都是长期的战略押注。
P07652:21
I feel like this is what we're here to do, is make long-term technology bets and design the best experiences end to end that we can for billions of people around the world. I think as long as we continue to do that, then over time, the business takes care of itself, as long as we continue executing well, which I'm really proud of the team for how we're doing on that.
我觉得这正是我们存在的意义:做出长期的技术押注,并为全球数十亿人端到端地设计出我们所能做到的最佳体验。我认为只要我们继续坚持这样做,并且继续保持出色的执行力——我对团队在这方面的表现感到由衷自豪——那么随着时间推移,商业回报自然水到渠成。
P07752:41
Susan LiCFO
Thanks, Mark. Your second question was around Muse for small business. We launched that, which you can think of as an expansion for Muse, in late September. Rather than a separate product, it is kind of a set of new skills and connectors inside the existing Muse app aimed at helping SMB owners run operations, find new customers. It connects to a business's, for example, Instagram account analytics or Facebook pages or Meta ad accounts in a few clicks, along with dozens of third-party connectors that businesses already run on, like Shopify, QuickBooks, Canva, et cetera. It already understands what businesses sell, its brand voice, what customers are asking for. Muse can take actions, including analyze ad and content performance, draft campaigns, customer responses, flag issues. We are actively listening to our SMB users to understand what their top use cases are.
谢谢 Mark。你的第 2 个问题是关于面向小型企业的 Muse。我们在 9 月下旬推出了这一功能,你可以将其视为 Muse 的一项扩展。它并不是一个独立的产品,而是现有 Muse 应用内部的一套新技能和连接器,旨在帮助中小型企业(SMB)主开展日常运营并寻找新客户。只需点击几下,它就能连接到商家的 Instagram 账号分析数据、Facebook 主页或 Meta 广告账户,同时还能连接商家已经在使用的数十个第 3 方连接器,如 Shopify、QuickBooks、Canva 等。它已经能够理解商家销售什么产品、品牌语调是什么以及客户在咨询什么。Muse 可以采取多种行动,包括分析广告和内容表现、起草营销活动方案、回复客户以及标记问题。我们正在积极倾听中小型企业用户的反馈,以了解他们最核心的使用场景是什么。
P07853:38
We are seeing them use it for ads optimization, for direct message organizing, use it to expand their sales footprint, to keep their website current based on things like inventory and new products, to deal with employee load balancing. We are pretty closely following how businesses use Muse to make sure that we are being thoughtful about new features that we release in Muse to make it maximally useful and productive for SMBs. I would also say we have unique touch points to, again, I mentioned in my opening remarks, 500 million self-identified small businesses, and we think that many of the investments that we make in consumer products are going to carry over to help power those businesses also. We have multiple excellent channels to surface those opportunities to small businesses globally.
我们看到他们正在用它来进行广告优化、整理私信(DM)、扩大销售覆盖面、根据库存和新品情况实时更新网站,以及处理员工工作量调配。我们正非常密切地跟进商家如何使用 Muse,以确保我们在 Muse 中发布新功能时经过深思熟虑,使其对中小型企业而言具备最大的实用性和生产力。我还想说,正如我在开场白中提到的,我们与 5 亿家自我认定的小型企业拥有独特的触达纽带,而且我们认为,我们在消费者产品上所做的许多投资也将延伸过来,帮助为这些商家提供动力。我们拥有多个极佳的渠道,可以将这些机会呈献给全球各地的小型企业。
P07954:30
This is a place where we feel like we have an existing extremely strong platform, and we are very excited about it. We also believe the transition to AI has broadly unlocked enterprise as a new opportunity for us as well.
在这个领域,我们觉得自己拥有一个极其强大的现有平台,我们对此感到非常兴奋。同时我们也相信,向 AI 的转型在更广泛的层面上也为我们解锁了企业级市场这一全新的机遇。
P08054:49
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Ross Sandler with Barclays. Please go ahead.
您的下一个问题来自 Barclays 的 Ross Sandler。请讲。
P08154:55
Ross SandlerAnalyst, Barclays
Great. Mark, you touched on this earlier, but could you elaborate a little bit on maybe some high-level metrics around the per-user cost structure of Muse today, and then how you see that cost curve coming down as you go forward? What are some of the things you are doing to bring that cost curve down? Thank you.
太好了。Mark,你早些时候提到过这一点,但你能否详细阐述一下目前 Muse 单用户成本结构的一些宏观指标,以及展望未来你认为这条成本曲线将如何下降?为了推动这条成本曲线下降,你们正在采取哪些具体措施?谢谢。
P08255:18
Susan LiCFO
I am happy to answer that. Mark, you should add anything that you feel like I am missing. We do not have specific numbers to share around the cost structure of Muse today, but of course it is, as Mark said, pretty compute expensive. Making sure that we are focused on compute efficiency is going to be one of the key vectors towards being able to both scale Muse and grow it into the business that we want. I think there are a couple dimensions of achieving that efficiency. I think some of the more nearer-term pieces include things like leveraging off-peak or spare computing capacity to run some sets of jobs using smaller models. There is a lot of work to be done across different inference efficiency initiatives, all in service effectively of higher GPU utilization and other product efficiency work we can do also.
我很乐意回答这个问题。Mark,如果我有任何遗漏,请你随时补充。关于目前 Muse 的成本结构,我们没有具体的数字可以分享,但正如 Mark 所说,它的算力成本确实相当高昂。确保我们专注于提升算力效率,将是既能扩大 Muse 规模又能将其发展为我们所期望的业务的关键方向之 1。我认为实现这种效率提升有几个维度。偏短期的举措包括利用非高峰期或闲置的算力容量,并使用较小规模的模型来运行某几类任务。在不同的推理效率举措方面也有大量工作要做,所有这些工作实际上都是为了提高 GPU 利用率,此外还有我们可以开展的其他产品效率优化工作。
P08356:14
I think over the longer term, I think this is a place where we expect that we are going to be able to, over time, as LLM scale, get more tasks done with fewer tokens and also rely on AI models themselves to help us improve the efficiency of the software that we use to run the models. I think it is a place where we both feel like there is a lot more work on our efficiency roadmap that is going to help us bend the curve here. We also expect that the arc of how the AI-driven technological advances are going to apply here will also help us achieve larger savings over time.
我认为从长远来看,随着大语言模型(LLM)规模的扩大,我们预计随时间推移将能够用更少的 token 完成更多任务,同时还能依靠 AI 模型自身来帮助我们提升运行这些模型的软件效率。在这个领域,我们双方都认为我们的效率路线图上还有大量工作可以推进,这将帮助我们压低成本曲线。我们还预计,AI 驱动的技术进步在这一领域的应用发展轨迹,也将随时间推移帮助我们实现更大规模的成本节约。
P08456:56
Operator
Your next question comes from the line of Mark Mahaney with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.
您的下一个问题来自 Evercore ISI 的 Mark Mahaney。请讲。
P08557:02
Mark MahaneyAnalyst, Evercore ISI
Okay, thanks. Two questions. There is a bit of a playbook, or there has been at Meta over the years when you surface new surfaces and you build up the user growth engagement, then you layer in monetization. Do you think it is sort of a similar playbook here, or does it have to be a little bit faster with Muse, just given that the costs associated with it are materially greater, arguably, than launching those surfaces in the past? Then just a clarification on that commerce data point that you provided about 25% of users and the $200 or greater ASP. Are you including in commerce travel purchases, or is that just a retail data point? Thank you.
好的,谢谢。我有 2 个问题。多年来,当 Meta 推出新的产品版面(surfaces)时,一直有一套打法:先积累用户增长和参与度,然后再逐步叠加变现。你认为这次在 Muse 上也是类似的打法吗?还是说考虑到与 Muse 相关的成本 arguably(可以说)明显高于过去推出那些版面时的成本,变现节奏必须更快一些?另外,关于你们提供的商业数据点——即约 25% 的用户使用购物功能且平均客单价(ASP)在 200 美元或以上——想请你们澄清一下,你们在商业交易中是否包含了旅行预订消费,还是说这只是一个纯零售数据点?谢谢。
P08657:50
Mark ZuckerbergCEO
My guess, I think that we are going to work on monetization somewhat sooner on this than our normal playbook for a couple of reasons. One is just the size of the numbers that we are talking about in terms of both the costs and the opportunity, I think make it important to make progress on that in order to be able to scale it. The other is just that such a large part of what people are doing is commerce. To your question, that does include travel too. I think we might consider travel a different case, but travel is actually one of the other top use cases for Muse, is basically people planning that out and planning different kinds of things that they would get than they might get through our family of apps.
我的判断是,与我们通常的打法相比,在这款产品上我们会更早地着手推进变现,原因有几个。1 个原因是,无论从成本还是从商业机会来看,我们所探讨的数字规模都非常庞大,我认为这使得在变现上取得进展对于实现规模化扩展至关重要。另一个原因是,人们在上面所做的事情中,有很大一部分本来就是商业交易。回答你的问题:这确实包含了旅行消费。我想我们可能会把旅行视为一种不同的场景,但旅行实际上也是 Muse 其他最常用的使用场景之 1——人们基本上是用它来规划行程,并规划各种不同于他们通过我们的 Family of Apps 所能获取的消费体验。
P08758:38
I think that this is going to be an important thing for us to work on to deliver the consumer value that people want. In doing so, I think we will be able to build a model where we get a percent of the value that we are helping to create for people. I think that it is going to be very important to get the math on all of this to work out, so that way we can continue the compute build-out that we want to build in order to get this to reach everyone at scale.
我认为这将是我们致力于交付消费者所期望价值的一项重要工作。在此过程中,我认为我们将能够建立起一种商业模式,从中获取我们帮助人们创造的价值的一定比例。我认为让所有这一切在经济账上算得过来将非常重要,唯有如此,我们才能持续推进我们想要建设的算力扩张,从而让这项服务真正规模化地触达每一个人。
P08859:11
In addition to everything that Susan said in response to the last answer, I would also just add that we just see this trend that year-over-year, I just expect that we will be able to deliver the same intelligence that we have now in Muse Wonder or frankly, any of the current frontier models at a fraction of the cost in a smaller model a year from today. To the extent that represents some kind of baseline level that people seem to, that is sufficient for product market fit for Muse, I think that we will just continue through continued model development, make progress on that efficiency.
除了刚才 Susan 针对上一个问题所回答的所有内容之外,我还想补充一点:我们清楚地看到这样一个趋势,随着时间逐年推移,我完全预计从今天起 1 年后,我们将能够在一个体积更小的模型中,以目前成本的一小部分(几分之一),提供与现在的 Muse Wonder(或者坦率地说,目前的任何前沿模型)相同的智能水平。既然这一智能水平代表了人们认为足以让 Muse 实现产品市场契合度(PMF)的某种基准线,我认为我们将通过持续的模型开发,在效率提升上不断取得进展。
P08959:50
The thing that is, and of course less clear, is that I don't think in a year from now, most people are going to want to use the current model level of intelligence because that's also going to make progress. I think we're going to need to work on all of these things, both the revenue pieces of it and scaling the different aspects of that, as well as progressing on the model development and all the efficiency in order to be able to both fund and support the compute build-out and reach billions of people, which again, we want to get to that as soon as possible.
当然,目前还不那么确定的一点是,我认为从现在起 1 年后,大多数人并不会满足于使用当前模型水平的智能,因为智能前沿本身也会不断向前发展。因此我认为,我们需要在所有这些方面齐头并进——既要推进收入变现并扩大各个维度的规模,也要在模型开发和各项效率提升上不断取得进展,以便既能为算力建设提供资金支持,又能支撑算力扩张并触达数十亿用户;我再次强调,我们希望尽快达到这一目标。
P0901:00:21
Part of the reason why we're not just charging everyone upfront to use this is we want to establish this Muse network, and we think that it's going to be more valuable for people at scale when there are a lot of people and businesses using Muse, so that way they can collaborate and work together. I think that that's really a very important state to get to and one that we're quite excited about. Again, I don't think that there are many companies in the world that are well-situated to be able to do that in the way that we are. I think we are very well-situated to do that, and we plan to push on that quite aggressively.
我们之所以没有一开始就向所有人收费,部分原因在于我们希望建立起这个 Muse 网络;我们认为,当有大量的个人和商家都在使用 Muse 并能借此协同合作时,它在规模化状态下对人们而言将更具价值。我认为那确实是一个非常值得达成的关键状态,也是 1 个令我们倍感振奋的状态。再说一次,我认为世界上没有多少公司能够像我们这样具备如此得天独厚的条件去做成这件事。我认为我们处于非常有利的位置,而且我们计划非常积极地推进这一战略。
P0911:00:56
Operator
That does conclude our question-and-answer session. Mr. Bhavnani, I would like to turn the call back over to you.
我们的问答环节到此结束。Bhavnani 先生(Bevegni 先生),我将把电话交还给您。
P0921:01:04
Rob BevegniDirector of Investor Relations
Thank you for joining us today, and we look forward to speaking with you again soon.
感谢各位今天参加我们的会议,我们期待很快再次与大家交流。
P0931:01:10
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's conference call. Thank you for your participation, and you may now disconnect.
女士们、先生们,今天的电话会议到此结束。感谢您的参与,您现在可以挂断电话了。