FY2026Q4 电话会逐字稿
发言人
点击某位发言人,只突出显示其发言;再次点击恢复| 姓名 | 职位 | 机构 | 段落 |
|---|---|---|---|
| John Ternus | CEO | Apple | 35 |
| Kevan Parekh | CFO | Apple | 25 |
| Suhasini Chandramouli | Head of Investor Relations | Apple | 13 |
| Operator | 11 | ||
| Sabih Khan | COO | Apple | 5 |
| Krish Sankar | Analyst | TD Cowen | 4 |
| David Vogt | Analyst | UBS | 4 |
| Michael Ng | Analyst | Goldman Sachs | 3 |
| Erik Woodring | Analyst | Morgan Stanley | 3 |
| Amit Daryanani | Analyst | Evercore | 3 |
| Ben Reitzes | Analyst | Melius Research | 3 |
| Wamsi Mohan | Analyst | Bank of America | 3 |
| Samik Chatterjee | Analyst | JPMorgan | 3 |
| Richard Kramer | Analyst | Arete Research | 3 |
| Ben Bollin | Analyst | Cleveland Research | 2 |
● 公司管理层 / 主持人 ● 外部分析师
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Suhasini ChandramouliHead of Investor Relations
Good afternoon, and welcome to the Apple Q4 fiscal year 2026 earnings conference call. My name is Suhasini Chandramouli, Head of Investor Relations. Today's call is being recorded. Speaking first today is Apple CEO John Ternus, and he'll be followed by CFO Kevan Parekh. After that, we'll open the call to questions from analysts. Please note that some of the information you'll hear during our discussion today will consist of forward-looking statements, including, without limitation, those regarding revenue, gross margin, operating expenses, other income and expense, taxes, and future business outlook. These statements involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results or trends to differ materially from our forecast, including risks related to the potential impact to the company's business and results of operations from macroeconomic conditions, tariffs and other measures, and legal and regulatory proceedings.
下午好,欢迎参加苹果 2026 财年第四季度财报电话会议。我是投资者关系主管 Suhasini Chandramouli。今天的电话会议正在录音。今天首先发言的是苹果首席执行官 John Ternus,随后由首席财务官 Kevan Parekh 发言。之后,我们将开放分析师提问环节。请注意,我们在今天讨论中听到的部分信息将包含前瞻性陈述,包括但不限于有关营收、毛利率、营业费用、其他收支、税项及未来业务展望的陈述。这些陈述涉及风险和不确定性,可能导致实际结果或趋势与我们的预测存在重大差异,包括宏观经济状况、关税及其他措施、以及法律和监管程序对公司业务和经营业绩造成潜在影响的相关风险。
P00201:01
For more information, please refer to the risk factors discussed in Apple's most recently filed reports on Form 10-Q and Form 10-K, and the Form 8-K filed with the SEC today, along with the associated press release. Additional information will also be in our report on Form 10-K for the year ended September 26, 2026, to be filed tomorrow, and in other reports and filings we make with the SEC. Apple assumes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements, which speak only as of the date they are made. I'd now like to turn the call over to John for introductory remarks.
欲了解更多信息,请参阅苹果最近提交的 Form 10-Q 和 Form 10-K 报告中讨论的风险因素,以及今天向美国证券交易委员会(SEC)提交的 Form 8-K 报告及随附的新闻稿。更多信息还将载于我们将于明天提交的截至 2026 年 9 月 26 日止年度的 Form 10-K 报告,以及我们向 SEC 提交的其他报告和文件中。苹果不承担更新任何前瞻性陈述的义务,这些陈述仅代表截至作出之日的情况。现在我将把电话交给 John 作开场发言。
P00301:43
John TernusCEO
Thank you, Suhasini. Hello, everyone, and thanks for joining us. It's a privilege to be with you for the first time as Apple CEO. I'm honored to represent our teams and the work they do every day. Today, Apple is pleased to report $114.5 billion in revenue, up 12% from a year ago, and a September quarter record. These results helped Apple achieve its best-ever fiscal year for revenue and EPS. This is an amazing time at Apple. We just completed one of the most prolific launch periods in our history. It's been a remarkable time for innovation across all of our categories. One of the greatest testaments to that is the all-new iPhone Duo, the most transformational iPhone since the original.
谢谢你,Suhasini。大家好,感谢各位参加会议。很荣幸首次作为苹果首席执行官与大家交流。我很自豪能够代表我们的团队以及他们每天所做的工作。今天,苹果很高兴地报告营收达到 1145 亿美元,同比增长 12%,创下 9 月季度历史新高。这一业绩帮助苹果实现了公司历史上营收和每股收益(EPS)最高的一个财年。这是苹果无比精彩的时刻。我们刚刚完成了公司历史上最密集的新品发布期之一。我们所有产品类别都迎来了非凡的创新时刻。其中最伟大的证明之一就是全新的 iPhone Duo,这是自初代 iPhone 以来最具变革性的 iPhone。
P00402:28
We're also incredibly excited about iPhone 18 Pro and 18 Pro Max, which take massive leaps forward on camera, battery life, and performance, features that our users care deeply about. Meanwhile, touch has arrived on Mac for the first time with the all-new MacBook Pro, and we were excited to announce the new iMac and 14-inch MacBook Pro. The all-new iPad mini features a stunning new OLED display and brings a super-thin design to the smallest member of the iPad family. Apple Watch now offers users the clearest window yet into their heart health. We introduced AirPods 5, which feature industry-leading active noise cancellation in an open-ear design. And we've laid the foundation for an even more intelligent smart home with the all-new HomeView, Apple TV 4K, and HomePod mini.
我们同样对 iPhone 18 Pro 和 18 Pro Max 感到无比兴奋,它们在摄像头、电池续航和性能这些用户深切关注的功能上实现了巨大飞跃。与此同时,全新的 MacBook Pro 首次将触控功能带到了 Mac 上,我们也很高兴发布了新款 iMac 和 14 英寸 MacBook Pro。全新的 iPad mini 配备了惊艳的新款 OLED 显示屏,并为 iPad 家族中最小的成员带来了超薄设计。Apple Watch 现在为用户提供迄今最清晰的心脏健康监测窗口。我们推出了 AirPods 5,在开放式耳塞设计中实现了行业领先的主动降噪功能。此外,我们还通过全新的 HomeView、Apple TV 4K 和 HomePod mini,为更智能的智能家居奠定了基础。
P00503:19
On top of it all, we're unlocking more powerful AI experiences across our lineup, including with the all-new Siri AI, a profoundly capable and deeply personal assistant seamlessly integrated across our platforms. Like everything we make, Siri AI is built with essential privacy protections, so no one can access users' data, not even Apple. We launched Siri AI in beta for U.S. English users in September and expanded to French, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, and Spanish in October. We're really excited to have rolled all these innovations out, and there's still so much more we plan to do. I'm feeling great about the opportunities ahead for Apple, from our product roadmap and broad range of services to promising areas like health, emerging markets, enterprise, and education. As one example, we recently secured our biggest education deal ever for Mac with the Department of Education in the Philippines.
除此之外,我们正在全系产品中释放更强大的 AI 体验,包括全新的 Siri AI——一个能力深厚、高度个性化且无缝集成于我们各平台的智能助手。就像我们打造的所有产品一样,Siri AI 内置了核心隐私保护机制,因此没有任何人能够访问用户的数据,甚至连苹果也不能。我们在 9 月面向美国英语用户推出了 Siri AI 测试版,并在 10 月扩展至法语、日语、韩语、葡萄牙语和西班牙语。我们非常高兴推出了所有这些创新,而且我们计划要做的事情还有很多。我对苹果面前的机遇感到非常振奋,从我们的产品路线图和广泛的服务业务,到医疗健康、新兴市场、企业客户和教育等充满前景的领域。举个例子,我们最近与菲律宾教育部达成了 Mac 有史以来最大的一笔教育订单。
P00604:21
They're going to deploy 170,000 MacBook Neos to teachers and staff. Opportunities like this bring more users into our ecosystem and help fuel growth across our business. Apple is the greatest company in the world. We've assembled an extraordinary collection of talent, the best engineers, designers, developers, and experts in every corner of our business, from our supply chain to our stores. Every day, we bring the right people together with the best ideas to build products and services that change lives, guided by a foundational set of values and a belief that the best technology should make a better world. We do that by making products that are powerful and intuitive and meet Apple's uncompromising standards for quality, performance, design, and durability. That's the Apple experience customers love. With our latest lineup, people have even more reasons than ever to upgrade or switch to an Apple product.
他们将为教师和教职员工部署 170,000 台 MacBook Neo。像这样的机会将更多用户带入我们的生态系统,并助力推动我们整个业务的增长。苹果是世界上最伟大的公司。我们汇聚了非凡的人才队伍——在从供应链到零售店的业务各个角落,都有最优秀的工程师、设计师、开发者和专家。每一天,我们将合适的人才与最棒的想法结合在一起,遵循一套根本的价值观以及“最优秀的技术应当让世界变得更美好”的信念,打造改变人们生活的产品和服务。为此,我们打造强大、直观且符合苹果在质量、性能、设计和耐用性方面毫不妥协标准的产品。这就是深受客户喜爱的苹果体验。凭借我们最新的产品阵容,人们比以往任何时候都更有理由升级或换用苹果产品。
P00705:23
At the same time, Apple services amplify the experience of every device, helping people work, play, listen, watch, and stay connected to the world around them. I'm delighted with where our services business is today and where it's going. With an installed base of more than 2.5 billion active devices, I'm looking forward to expanding our offerings and improving the lives of users around the world. We see tremendous opportunity in AI as well. Siri AI marks a new chapter in AI at Apple. It is a completely reimagined assistant that is powerful, personal, private, and deeply relevant to our users' daily lives. Siri AI picks up what's relevant to our users, understands what's on their screen, and holds a natural conversation, all to help them with the things they do every day. It's the Siri we've always wanted.
与此同时,苹果的服务业务放大了每一台设备的体验,帮助人们工作、娱乐、聆听、观看并与周围的世界保持连接。我对我们服务业务今天所处的位置以及未来的发展方向感到非常满意。凭借超过 25 亿台活跃设备的装机量,我期待进一步扩展我们的服务内容,改善全球用户的生活。我们在 AI 领域同样看到了巨大的机遇。Siri AI 标志着苹果 AI 翻开了新篇章。它是一个彻底重构的智能助手,强大、个性化、私密,并且与用户的日常生活深度相关。Siri AI 能够捕捉与用户相关的信息,理解屏幕上的内容,并进行自然的对话,所有这一切都是为了帮助用户处理日常事务。这就是我们一直想要的 Siri。
P00806:18
We are very pleased with the reviews and feedback we've received, and we're so excited that more and more users are getting to experience it. iPhone remains at the center of our opportunity as the intelligent personal hub. It's always with you and understands your personal context, from your messages to your photos, notes, and apps, to deliver powerful intelligence right when you need it. There's Mac, which is having an AI moment all its own. Mac is what brought me to Apple, and through the years, it has opened a world of possibilities. More than 40 years after the first Mac, the category is having its biggest moment yet, with every Mac in our latest lineup a powerful platform for AI. Mac mini and Mac Studio in particular are pushing the boundaries of local, private AI, giving users the ability to do things once considered impossible.
我们对收到的评测和反馈非常满意,并且非常高兴有越来越多的用户正在体验它。iPhone 作为智能个人中枢,依然处于我们机遇的核心位置。它始终伴随你左右,理解你的个人情境——从信息到照片、备忘录和应用,在你最需要的时候提供强大的智能体验。还有 Mac,它正在迎来属于自己的 AI 时刻。Mac 是当初吸引我加入苹果的原因,多年来它开启了一个充满可能性的世界。在第一台 Mac 问世 40 多年后,这一品类正迎来迄今最辉煌的时刻,我们最新产品阵容中的每一台 Mac 都是强大的 AI 平台。特别是 Mac mini 和 Mac Studio,正在突破本地、私密 AI 的边界,让用户能够完成曾经被认为不可能的事情。
P00907:14
From Mac to iPhone to iPad, we are proud that our products are the best platforms in the industry for AI, for both first-party and third-party applications, and we are excited about the opportunities that creates. Ultimately, everything we do at Apple is for our users. The success of every innovation is best measured by its impact on people's lives, and that is what drives us to keep building great products and to get them into the hands of people all around the world. Now, let us take a deeper dive into our results for the quarter. As I mentioned earlier, we had an excellent quarter at Apple. In addition to September quarter and fiscal year records in total company revenue, iPhone set a September quarter revenue record, capping its best fiscal year ever. Services achieved an all-time record during the quarter to close out our best year ever there too.
从 Mac 到 iPhone 再到 iPad,我们自豪地看到我们的产品是行业内最优秀的 AI 平台,无论是对第一方还是第三方应用而言,我们对由此创造的机遇感到兴奋。归根结底,我们在苹果所做的一切都是为了我们的用户。衡量每一项创新成功的最佳标准,是它对人们生活产生的影响,这也正是驱动我们不断打造伟大产品并将其交到全球用户手中的动力。现在,让我们更深入地看看本季度的业绩表现。正如我刚才提到的,苹果度过了非常出色的一个季度。除了公司总营收创下 9 月季度和全财年历史新高外,iPhone 营收也创下 9 月季度纪录,为有史以来表现最好的一个财年完美收官。服务业务在本季度创下历史新高,同样为有史以来表现最好的一年画上圆满句号。
P01008:09
We grew in the vast majority of markets we track, setting September quarter records in the Americas, Europe, Greater China, and the rest of Asia Pacific. We also set September quarter revenue records in both developed and emerging markets, in addition to an all-time record in India. Turning to our lineup, iPhone revenue was $57.6 billion for the September quarter, up 17% from a year ago, despite supply constraints and FX headwinds. We grew strong double digits in the U.S. and Greater China to achieve September quarter revenue records. We also set a September quarter record for upgraders worldwide, as well as in the U.S., China Mainland, and India, helping to deliver our best fiscal year ever for upgraders globally. At the launch in September, we introduced the all-new iPhone Duo.
我们在所跟踪的绝大多数市场都实现了增长,在美洲、欧洲、大中华区和亚太其他地区均创下 9 月季度纪录。我们在发达市场和新兴市场也均创下 9 月季度营收纪录,并在印度创下历史最高纪录。来看各产品线表现,9 月季度 iPhone 营收为 576 亿美元,尽管面临供给受限和汇率逆风,仍同比增长 17%。我们在美国和大中华区实现了强劲的两位数增长,创下 9 月季度营收纪录。我们的全球升级换机用户数也创下 9 月季度纪录,在美国、中国大陆和印度同样创下 9 月季度纪录,助力全球升级换机用户数创下有史以来最佳财年表现。在 9 月的发布会上,我们推出了全新的 iPhone Duo。
P01109:05
From the very beginning, we knew what we wanted to create, a foldable form factor with a larger display that feels as natural and intuitive as iPad. We designed the hardware and software together to make it unmistakably iPhone, while enabling entirely new ways to use it. The result is a series of remarkable innovations that we believe will redefine what a foldable phone can be. We are so proud of what our teams have built. Developers have been quickly adapting to this new form factor, and we are excited to see more and more apps optimized for iPhone Duo. We have been thrilled with the early response from reviewers and customers, and we are working hard to get iPhone Duo into customers' hands as quickly as we can. We have also been thrilled with the response to iPhone 18 Pro and Pro Max. It is easy to see why customers are embracing them.
从一开始,我们就清楚自己想要打造什么——一款拥有更大显示屏、用起来像 iPad 一样自然直观的折叠屏形态产品。我们将硬件与软件协同设计,使其毫无疑问是一部纯正的 iPhone,同时开启了全新的使用方式。最终诞生了一系列非凡的创新,我们相信这将重新定义折叠屏手机。我们为团队打造出的产品感到无比自豪。开发者们正在快速适配这一新形态,我们很高兴看到越来越多的应用针对 iPhone Duo 进行了优化。评测人员和客户的早期反响令我们倍感振奋,我们正在全力以赴,尽快将 iPhone Duo 交到客户手中。我们对 iPhone 18 Pro 和 Pro Max 的反响也同样感到振奋。很容易理解为什么客户如此青睐它们。
P01209:58
Our latest models feature a dramatically improved camera system with breakthrough upgrades like variable aperture and all-new photographic styles. The A20 Pro and next-generation vapor chamber together deliver the highest sustained performance in iPhone history. iPhone 18 Pro Max delivers the biggest increase in battery life ever on an iPhone. A20 Pro also features a new dual 16-core Neural Engine, accelerating on-device AI and computational photography. Turning to Mac, revenue was $10.8 billion, up 24% from a year ago, despite supply constraints. We had double-digit growth in the majority of markets we track, and particularly strong performance in our emerging markets, where we set a September quarter revenue record. We also set a September quarter record for customers new to the Mac.
我们最新的机型配备了大幅提升的摄像头系统,带来可变光圈和全新摄影风格等突破性升级。A20 Pro 芯片与新一代均热板相结合,带来了 iPhone 历史上最高的持续性能表现。iPhone 18 Pro Max 实现了 iPhone 有史以来最大的电池续航提升。A20 Pro 还配备了全新的双 16 核神经网络引擎(Neural Engine),加速端侧 AI 和计算摄影。再看 Mac,尽管面临供给受限,营收仍达到 108 亿美元,同比增长 24%。我们在所跟踪的多数市场实现了两位数增长,在新兴市场的表现尤为强劲,创下 9 月季度营收纪录。我们的 Mac 新客户数量也创下了 9 月季度纪录。
P01310:53
According to IDC, we gained share globally during the quarter and for the full fiscal year. We have never sold more Macs in a fiscal year than we did this time, which is a truly remarkable testament to these incredible products. Last week, we introduced a whole new way for people to experience Mac. The all-new MacBook Pro with PROLED XDR brings touch to the Mac for the first time. It also boasts the best pro laptop display we have ever shipped, plus all-day battery and our most immersive laptop audio. It all comes together in a thinner and lighter design. We also brought the power of M6 to the new 14-inch MacBook Pro and the new iMac.
根据 IDC 的数据,我们在本季度及整个财年均提升了全球市场份额。我们在单个财年售出的 Mac 数量创下了历史之最,这确实是对这些卓越产品的绝佳证明。上周,我们推出了一种体验 Mac 的全新方式。配备 PROLED XDR 显示屏的全新 MacBook Pro 首次将触控功能带到了 Mac 上。它还拥有我们出货过的最出色的专业笔记本显示屏,加上全天候电池续航和我们最具沉浸感的笔记本音响系统。所有这一切都融于更轻薄的设计之中。我们还将 M6 芯片的强大性能带到了新款 14 英寸 MacBook Pro 和新款 iMac 上。
P01411:37
This latest generation of Apple silicon includes the world's fastest CPU core to speed up everyday tasks, in addition to a dual 16-core Neural Engine to drive private on-device AI tasks. Now turning to iPad, where revenue was $6.2 billion for the September quarter. Last week, we introduced the all-new iPad mini with an amazing new OLED display, super thin design, and the power of A20 Pro. With the newest edition, our iPad lineup is more capable and versatile than ever before. Anywhere our users go, there's a place for iPad, like a classroom, where it helps students explore the world in amazing ways, or a design studio, giving artists and creatives an expansive canvas to explore their ideas. In wearables, home, and accessories, revenue was $8.3 billion for the September quarter.
这一最新一代 Apple silicon 包含了全球最快的 CPU 核心以加速日常任务,此外还配备了双 16 核神经网络引擎(Neural Engine)以驱动私密的端侧 AI 任务。现在来看 iPad,9 月季度营收为 62 亿美元。上周,我们推出了全新的 iPad mini,配备惊艳的新款 OLED 显示屏、超薄设计以及强大的 A20 Pro 芯片。随着最新款的加入,我们的 iPad 产品阵容比以往任何时候都更强大、更多面。无论用户走到哪里,iPad 都有用武之地——比如在教室里帮助学生以奇妙的方式探索世界,或者在设计工作室里为艺术家和创作者提供探索灵感的广阔画布。在可穿戴设备、家居及配件方面,9 月季度营收为 83 亿美元。
P01512:32
Apple Watch makes the simple act of wearing a watch a powerful way to help take care of your health. We were thrilled to introduce our all-new Health Sensing System to help our users get the most out of health tracking. Paired with the S11 chip, Apple's most powerful wearable chip, the Health Sensing System delivers the most accurate heart rate sensing in a wearable. We were also happy to unveil new features like Health Age and Readiness, which will tell you when to push forward or hold back, as well as the all-new Health app redesign. We are excited for Audio Intelligence, which will be coming in a future software update and will help you remember moments you might otherwise miss.
Apple Watch 让佩戴手表这一简单举动成为呵护个人健康的强大方式。我们很高兴推出了全新的健康传感系统(Health Sensing System),帮助用户充分利用健康追踪功能。配合苹果最强大的可穿戴芯片 S11,该健康传感系统提供了可穿戴设备中最精准的心率监测。我们也很高兴推出了健康年龄(Health Age)和准备度(Readiness)等新功能,它们会告诉你在运动时何时该发力、何时该休整,同时我们还对“健康”(Health)应用进行了全新改版。我们对即将通过未来软件更新推出的音频智能(Audio Intelligence)充满期待,它将帮助你记住那些原本可能错过的瞬间。
P01613:13
Apple Watch Series 12 brings it all together in a beautifully light design, while Apple Watch Ultra 4 goes further with longer battery life compared to the previous generation and the most accurate on-device GPS in a sports watch. Meanwhile, AirPods 5 offers best-in-class open-ear active noise cancellation at an incredible price, while improving sound quality, battery life, and durability. With iPhone and Apple Intelligence, including Siri AI, AirPods allow users to do remarkable things, like connect with someone who's speaking another language with live translation, or get answers with broad world knowledge entirely hands-free. Just a few weeks ago, we introduced a whole new generation of hardware for the home. That includes Apple HomeView, which was designed to be central to the home and personal to everyone in it, bringing entertainment, connection, and home management together in one place.
Apple Watch Series 12 将所有这些功能融于精美轻巧的设计中,而 Apple Watch Ultra 4 则更进一步,相比上一代拥有更长的电池续航,以及运动手表中最精准的端侧 GPS。与此同时,AirPods 5 以极具吸引力的价格提供了同类最佳的开放式主动降噪,同时提升了音质、电池续航和耐用性。配合 iPhone 和包括 Siri AI 在内的 Apple Intelligence,AirPods 让用户能够完成许多了不起的事情,比如通过实时翻译与说不同语言的人交流,或者完全免提地获取广博的世界知识解答。就在几周前,我们为家庭场景推出了全新一代硬件产品。其中包括 Apple HomeView,它被设计为家庭的中枢,并为家中的每个人提供个性化体验,将娱乐、沟通和家庭管理融于一体。
P01714:12
We announced this alongside the new Apple TV 4K, now smarter with Apple Intelligence, the all-new HomePod mini, and Apple Home Collection, a new program that extends Apple Home beyond our own products through deep collaboration with key partners. All of it, as always, is built on Apple's approach to privacy. Now, let's turn to services. Revenue was $31.6 billion, up 10% from a year ago, and an all-time record. We saw double-digit growth in the majority of markets that we track, and we set all-time revenue records in the Americas and Europe, as well as the September quarter record in the rest of Asia Pacific. The 78th Primetime Emmy Awards were a night to remember for Apple TV, with our shows earning more awards than any other network. "Widow's Bay," the show of the summer, became the most awarded comedy ever in a single year with 14 wins.
与它一同发布的还有因 Apple Intelligence 而变得更智能的新款 Apple TV 4K、全新的 HomePod mini,以及通过与核心合作伙伴深度协作将 Apple Home 扩展至自有产品之外的全新项目 Apple Home Collection。一如既往,所有这一切都建立在苹果的隐私保护理念之上。现在,让我们转向服务业务。营收达到 316 亿美元,同比增长 10%,创下历史新高。我们在所跟踪的多数市场实现了两位数增长,在美洲和欧洲创下历史最高营收纪录,并在亚太其他地区创下 9 月季度纪录。在第 78 届黄金时段艾美奖(Primetime Emmy Awards)上,Apple TV 度过了难忘的一夜,我们的剧集斩获的奖项数量超过了任何其他电视网。今夏热门剧集《Widow's Bay》单年斩获 14 个奖项,成为有史以来单年获奖最多的喜剧剧集。
P01815:10
We're very excited about our programming, from fan favorites like "Slow Horses" and "Ted Lasso" to the upcoming film "Being Heumann." To date, Apple TV productions have earned more than 900 wins and over 3,800 nominations. Turning to Apple Pay, we recently launched in India with Axis Bank, bringing a seamless, safe, and secure way to pay in one of the biggest markets in the world. Today, Apple Pay is available in over 90 markets, giving customers around the world peace of mind built into every transaction. Apple Music was created to bring artists and fans closer together, and with the opening of Apple Music Hall, we have a beautiful new venue for intimate shows that bring them even closer. To celebrate the opening of the site in London, we hosted an unforgettable performance by Elton John.
我们对自己的节目内容感到非常兴奋,从《流人》(Slow Horses)和《足球教练》(Ted Lasso)等观众喜爱的剧集,到即将上映的电影《Being Heumann》。迄今为止,Apple TV 制作的作品已获得超过 900 个奖项和超过 3,800 项提名。在 Apple Pay 方面,我们最近与 Axis Bank 合作在印度正式上线,为全球最大的市场之一带来了流畅、安全、可靠的支付方式。如今,Apple Pay 已在超过 90 个市场提供服务,让全球客户在每一笔交易中都能享有内置的安心保障。Apple Music 的创立初衷是拉近艺人与歌迷的距离,随着 Apple Music Hall 的开业,我们拥有了一个举办小型演出、让他们距离更近的绝美新场馆。为了庆祝伦敦场馆的开业,我们举办了一场由 Elton John 带来的难忘演出。
P01916:02
People love Apple products and services for the countless ways they make life easier, more enjoyable, and just plain better. They also count on Apple to create technology responsibly, built the right way, not the easy way. That means building products with even more recycled content to take less from the earth, and with even better durability so they last longer. It means developing intelligent capabilities like sound recognition on Apple Watch to alert users who are deaf or hard of hearing to what's happening around them. It means designing privacy protections like on-device processing so personal data stays on a user's device. And it means introducing new child safety features to make it easier for parents to manage when and how their kids can use their devices. We're also pleased to be doing more and more manufacturing in the U.S.
人们热爱苹果的产品和服务,因为它们以无数种方式让生活变得更轻松、更愉悦、更美好。人们也信赖苹果以负责任的方式创造技术——用正确的方式打造,而非图省事的方式。这意味着在制造产品时使用更多再生材料,减少对地球资源的索取,并提升产品耐用性,让它们使用得更久。这意味着开发智能功能,例如 Apple Watch 上的声音识别功能,提醒失聪或听障用户注意周围发生的情况。这意味着设计端侧处理等隐私保护机制,使个人数据保留在用户自己的设备上。这也意味着推出新的儿童安全功能,让家长更容易管理孩子使用设备的时间和方式。我们也很高兴能在美国开展越来越多的制造业务。
P02016:55
Through our American Manufacturing Program, we're deepening partnerships with suppliers across the country, including Perryman Company, a titanium producer now supplying iPhone Duo, and Qnity Electronics, which is producing the camera technology behind iPhone 18 Pro's new variable aperture system. Nearly 100 components in our newest iPhones come from American companies in more than a dozen states. All told, Apple supports more than 450,000 American jobs with thousands of suppliers and partners across all 50 states. It's all part of our $600 billion four-year commitment to U.S. innovation and advanced manufacturing. I am proud of what we've accomplished this quarter, and I'm excited for what's ahead. We have everything we need to be extraordinarily successful, and with this team, this vision, this mission, and these values, I have no doubt that we will. With that, I'll hand it over to Kevan.
通过我们的“美国制造计划”(American Manufacturing Program),我们正在深化与全美各地供应商的合作,包括目前为 iPhone Duo 供应钛金属的生产商 Perryman Company,以及生产 iPhone 18 Pro 全新可变光圈系统核心摄像头技术的 Qnity Electronics。我们最新款 iPhone 中有近 100 个零部件来自十几个州的美国企业。总体而言,苹果通过遍布全部 50 个州的数千家供应商和合作伙伴,支持了超过 450,000 个美国就业岗位。这都是我们对美国创新和先进制造 4 年 6000 亿美元承诺的一部分。我为我们本季度取得的成就感到自豪,并对未来的发展充满期待。我们拥有取得非凡成功所需的一切,凭借这支团队、这一愿景、这一使命和这些价值观,我坚信我们一定能成功。接下来,我把时间交给 Kevan。
P02117:55
Kevan ParekhCFO
Thanks, John, and good afternoon, everyone. Here's a quick rundown of our key financial metrics. Our revenue of $114.5 billion was up 12% year-over-year, a September quarter revenue record. This strong performance was despite sequential foreign exchange headwinds of nearly 2 percentage points, as well as supply constraints on iPhone, Mac, and iPad. Products revenue was $82.9 billion, up 12% year-over-year, driven by strong double-digit growth on iPhone and Mac. Our install base of over 2.5 billion active devices has reached another all-time high across all major product categories and geographic segments. Services revenue was $31.6 billion, up 10% year-over-year. We saw strong performance in many services categories with all-time records in video, cloud services, payment services, and advertising, and a September quarter record in music. Company gross margin was 47.9%, and products gross margin was 37.2%.
谢谢你,John,大家下午好。以下简要回顾我们的主要财务指标。我们的营收为 1145 亿美元,同比增长 12%,创下 9 月季度营收纪录。尽管面临近 2 个百分点的环比汇率逆风,以及 iPhone、Mac 和 iPad 的供给受限,我们依然取得了这一强劲表现。产品营收为 829 亿美元,同比增长 12%,主要由 iPhone 和 Mac 强劲的两位数增长驱动。我们超过 25 亿台活跃设备的装机量在所有主要产品类别和地区分部均再创历史新高。服务营收为 316 亿美元,同比增长 10%。许多服务类别表现强劲,视频、云服务、支付服务和广告业务均创历史新高,音乐业务创下 9 月季度纪录。公司毛利率为 47.9%,产品毛利率为 37.2%。
P02219:07
These both included a benefit from tariff refunds, which had a favorable impact of approximately 1 percentage point in the September quarter. When you remove the tariff refunds from both the June and September quarter, both company and products gross margin would be down about 1 point sequentially, primarily driven by higher memory costs. As of the September quarter, we have received the vast majority of the refunds related to tariffs paid. Services gross margin was 76%, up 40 basis points sequentially. Operating expenses came in at $19.2 billion, up 21% year-over-year, as we continued to make investments in R&D. Net income was $30.7 billion. Diluted earnings per share was $2.10, up 14% year-over-year, and included $0.05 of favorable impact from tariff refunds. Both net income and EPS set September quarter records, even when excluding the tariff refund benefit.
这两项指标均包含了关税退款带来的收益,在 9 月季度产生了约 1 个百分点的有利影响。如果剔除 6 月季度和 9 月季度的关税退款,公司毛利率和产品毛利率均环比下降约 1 个百分点,主要受内存成本上升的影响。截至 9 月季度,我们已收到绝大部分与已付关税相关的退款。服务毛利率为 76%,环比上升 40 个基点。营业费用为 192 亿美元,同比增长 21%,因为我们继续加大研发投入。净利润为 307 亿美元。摊薄每股收益为 2.10 美元,同比增长 14%,其中包含关税退款带来的 0.05 美元有利影响。即便剔除关税退款收益,净利润和每股收益也均创下 9 月季度纪录。
P02320:14
Operating cash flow was also very strong at $28.1 billion. This performance marked our best fiscal year yet, with $478.8 billion in revenue, up 15% year-over-year, and a fiscal year record for EPS of $8.98, up 20% year-over-year. Now, I'm going to provide some more details for each of our revenue categories. iPhone revenue was $57.6 billion, up 17% year-over-year, despite supply constraints. We grew double digits in the majority of markets we track, and we also reached September quarter revenue records across both developed and emerging markets. As John mentioned, it was a record year for the total company, and we also had our best year ever for iPhone, both worldwide and in every geographic segment.
经营现金流同样非常强劲,达到 281 亿美元。这一业绩标志着我们创下有史以来最佳财年表现,全年营收达到 4788 亿美元,同比增长 15%,全年每股收益创下 8.98 美元的财年纪录,同比增长 20%。现在,我将详细介绍各个营收类别的情况。尽管面临供给受限,iPhone 营收仍达到 576 亿美元,同比增长 17%。我们在所跟踪的多数市场实现了两位数增长,在发达市场和新兴市场也均创下 9 月季度营收纪录。正如 John 所提到的,今年是公司总营收创纪录的一年,同时也是 iPhone 有史以来表现最好的一年,无论是在全球范围还是在每一个地区分部。
P02421:10
The iPhone active install base grew to an all-time high, and iPhone had a record year for upgraders globally and in several markets, including the U.S., China Mainland, India, and Japan. According to a recent survey from Worldpanel, iPhone was a top-selling model in the U.S., urban China, India, the U.K., Germany, Australia, and Japan. Mac revenue was $10.8 billion, up 24% year-over-year, despite supply constraints. This performance was driven by the strength of the MacBook Neo and MacBook Pro. We saw double-digit growth in both developed and emerging markets, with all-time records in markets like India and Southeast Asia. Emerging markets continued to see strong performance on Mac, resulting in Mac's best fiscal year there, driven by record upgraders and customers new to the Mac.
iPhone 活跃设备装机量增长至历史最高水平,全球以及美国、中国大陆、印度和日本等多个市场的 iPhone 升级换机用户数均创下年度纪录。根据 Worldpanel 最近的一项调查,iPhone 是美国、中国城市地区、印度、英国、德国、澳大利亚和日本最畅销的机型。尽管面临供给受限,Mac 营收仍达到 108 亿美元,同比增长 24%。这一表现主要由 MacBook Neo 和 MacBook Pro 的强劲需求推动。我们在发达市场和新兴市场均实现了两位数增长,在印度和东南亚等市场创下历史新高。Mac 在新兴市场继续保持强劲表现,在升级换机用户数和 Mac 新客户数双双创纪录的推动下,创下了 Mac 在新兴市场的最佳财年表现。
P02522:11
iPad revenue was $6.2 billion, down 10% year-over-year, driven by the supply constraints I mentioned earlier, as well as a continued difficult compare against the launch of the A16-powered iPad in the prior year. The iPad install base reached an all-time high during the quarter, and over half of the customers who purchased an iPad were new to the product. Wearables, home, and accessories revenue was $8.3 billion, down 8% year-over-year, as we faced a difficult compare against the launch of the Watch SE 3 and the AirPods Pro 3 in the prior year. The wearables install base reached a new all-time high, and over half of customers who bought an Apple Watch in the quarter were new to the product. Services revenue set an all-time record of $31.6 billion, up 10% year-over-year, despite over 1.5 points of sequential FX headwinds.
iPad 营收为 62 亿美元,同比下降 10%,主要是受我刚才提到的供给受限影响,以及上年同期推出搭载 A16 芯片的 iPad 所带来的持续高基数影响。iPad 装机量在本季度达到历史新高,本季度购买 iPad 的客户中有超过一半是该产品的新用户。可穿戴设备、家居及配件营收为 83 亿美元,同比下降 8%,因为我们面临上年同期推出 Watch SE 3 和 AirPods Pro 3 的高基数对比。可穿戴设备装机量创下历史新高,本季度购买 Apple Watch 的客户中有超过一半是该产品的新用户。尽管面临超过 1.5 个百分点的环比汇率逆风,服务营收仍创下 316 亿美元的历史新高,同比增长 10%。
P02623:10
We set all-time revenue records in the majority of markets we track, including several emerging markets like Latin America and India. We are optimistic about the long-term future of our services business. With our large install base of over 2.5 billion active devices, we have an incredibly strong foundation for growth opportunities. Our services continue to attract more customers, and both transacting and paid accounts reached new all-time highs in the quarter. We also have over 1.5 billion paid subscriptions, which grew double digits during the quarter, reaching an all-time high. We continue to improve and expand our services offerings, from iCloud+ plans that now include Apple TV and Apple Arcade in more than 100 countries and regions, to ads in Apple Maps, now live in the U.S. and Canada, which will give local businesses a new way to reach customers while respecting our users' privacy.
我们在所跟踪的多数市场创下历史最高营收纪录,包括拉丁美洲和印度等多个新兴市场。我们对服务业务的长期前景充满信心。凭借超过 25 亿台活跃设备的庞大装机量,我们为未来的增长机遇奠定了极其坚实的基础。我们的服务继续吸引更多客户,本季度交易账户数和付费账户数均创下历史新高。我们还拥有超过 15 亿份付费订阅,本季度实现两位数增长,创下历史新高。我们继续改进和扩展服务内容,从目前已在超过 100 个国家和地区包含 Apple TV 和 Apple Arcade 的 iCloud+ 订阅方案,到目前已在美加两国上线的 Apple Maps 广告——这将在尊重用户隐私的同时,为本地商家提供触达客户的新方式。
P02724:09
Turning now to enterprise, organizations are continuing to expand their fleets of Apple devices to transform operations and drive productivity. Duke Health performed the first surgical procedure using Apple Vision Pro for hip arthroscopy with an FDA-authorized app from Stryker. American Airlines is deploying over 37,000 iPhone 17 devices to flight attendants for in-flight purchases with tap to pay, in addition to 25,000 iPads for pilots and mechanics. More companies are choosing Mac across a growing range of use cases, including for on-device AI. For example, Gap Inc. is running AI entirely on Mac mini for loss prevention across hundreds of stores, eliminating cloud token costs. Christie's, a world-leading auction house, is running local models on Mac Studio to improve core productivity workflows such as pricing estimates. Let's turn to our cash position and capital return program.
现在来看企业客户市场,各类机构正继续扩大苹果设备部署规模,以实现运营转型并提升生产力。杜克大学医疗系统(Duke Health)利用 Apple Vision Pro 配合获美国食品药品监督管理局(FDA)批准的 Stryker 应用,完成了首例髋关节镜手术。美国航空(American Airlines)正在为乘务员部署超过 37,000 部 iPhone 17 设备用于机上轻触支付(Tap to Pay)购物,此外还为飞行员和机务人员配备了 25,000 台 iPad。越来越多的企业正在将 Mac 用于日益广泛的场景,包括运行端侧 AI。例如,Gap Inc. 正在数百家门店完全使用 Mac mini 本地运行 AI 进行防损管理,从而省去了云端 token 成本。全球领先的拍卖行佳士得(Christie's)正在 Mac Studio 上运行本地模型,以改进估价等核心生产力工作流。下面来看我们的现金状况和资本回报计划。
P02825:15
We ended the quarter with $137 billion in cash and marketable securities and $80 billion in total debt. During the quarter, we returned $28 billion to shareholders. This included $3.9 billion in dividends and equivalents and $24 billion in share repurchases. As we move ahead into the December quarter, I'd like to review our outlook, which includes the types of forward-looking information that Suhasini referred to. Importantly, the color we're providing assumes that global tariff rates, policies, and their application remain in effect as of this call, and the global macroeconomic outlook does not worsen from today. We expect our December quarter total company revenue to grow between 7% and 10% year-over-year, which reflects our best view of constrained supply. We expect this to be the best quarter for revenue in the history of the company.
我们在季末持有 1370 亿美元的现金及有价证券,总债务为 800 亿美元。本季度,我们向股东返还了 280 亿美元。其中包括 39 亿美元的股息及等价物,以及 240 亿美元的股票回购。随着我们进入 12 月季度,我想回顾一下我们的业务展望,其中包含 Suhasini 提到的各类前瞻性信息。需要强调的是,我们提供的展望信息假设全球关税税率、政策及其执行情况维持本次电话会议时的状态不变,且全球宏观经济展望不较今日恶化。我们预计 12 月季度公司总营收将同比增长 7% 至 10%,这反映了我们对供给受限状况的最佳估计。我们预计这将成为公司历史上营收最高的一个季度。
P02926:13
We expect services revenue to grow between 8% and 9% year-over-year in the December quarter. This contemplates sequential headwinds primarily driven by third-party licensing and foreign exchange. We expect gross margin to be between 45% and 46%. This includes primarily the impact of higher memory costs, as well as some costs related to the ramp of Siri AI. We expect operating expenses to be between $20.4 billion and $20.8 billion. We expect OI&E to be around $300 million, excluding any potential impact from the mark-to-market of minority investments, and our tax rate to be around 17%. Finally, today, our board of directors has declared a cash dividend of $0.27 per share of common stock payable on November 16, 2026, to shareholders of record as of November 12, 2026. With that, I'll hand it back to John.
我们预计 12 月季度服务营收将同比增长 8% 至 9%。这一预期考虑了主要由第三方授权业务和汇率带来的环比逆风。我们预计毛利率将在 45% 至 46% 之间。这主要反映了内存成本上升的影响,以及与 Siri AI 推广上量相关的部分成本。我们预计营业费用将在 204 亿美元至 208 亿美元之间。我们预计其他收支(OI&E)约为 3 亿美元(不包括少数股权投资按市值计价可能带来的任何潜在影响),有效税率约为 17%。最后,今天我们的董事会宣布派发每股普通股 0.27 美元的现金股息,将于 2026 年 11 月 16 日派发给截至 2026 年 11 月 12 日登记在册的股东。接下来,我把时间交还给 John。
P03027:21
John TernusCEO
Thanks, Kevin. Before we get into questions, I'd like to introduce Sabih Khan, Apple's Chief Operating Officer. Many of you know Sabih from his work with worldwide operations and supply chain, leading many important functions at Apple, including manufacturing, AppleCare, environmental efforts, and supplier partnerships around the world. Sabih and his team are the reason we're able to build and deliver products at a scale and of a caliber unlike anyone else out there. I've asked Sabih to join Kevin and me on these calls as we take your questions.
谢谢你,Kevan(注:原文误作 Kevin)。在进入提问环节之前,我想介绍一下苹果首席运营官 Sabih Khan。你们许多人通过他在全球运营和供应链方面的工作已经认识了 Sabih,他在苹果领导着许多重要职能,包括生产制造、AppleCare、环保举措以及全球供应商合作关系。正是因为 Sabih 和他的团队,我们才能够以无与伦比的规模和品质打造并交付产品。我邀请了 Sabih 与 Kevan(注:原文误作 Kevin)及我一起参加这些电话会议,共同回答大家的提问。
P03127:53
Suhasini ChandramouliHead of Investor Relations
Thank you, John. We ask that you limit yourself to two questions. Operator, may we have the first question, please?
谢谢你,John。请每位提问者将问题限制在 2 个以内。主持人,请接入第一个问题。
问答环节
P03228:02
Operator
Our first question is from Michael Ng of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.
我们的第一个问题来自高盛(Goldman Sachs)的 Michael Ng。请提问。
P03328:08
Michael NgAnalyst, Goldman Sachs
Hey, good afternoon. Thank you for the questions. I have two. First, on the iPhone 18, the standard model was left out of the September lineup. I was just wondering if you could share some of the reasons why, whether there were some supply constraints and component-related things that led to that decision, or if it had to do with the launch of the Duo. Any color there would be helpful. Then I have a follow-up. Thank you.
嘿,下午好。感谢接受我的提问。我有 2 个问题。首先关于 iPhone 18,标准版机型没有出现在 9 月的新品阵容中。我想知道你们能否分享一下背后的原因,是出于供给受限和零部件相关的因素作出了这一决定,还是与 Duo 的发布有关?任何相关信息都会很有帮助。之后我还有一个追问。谢谢。
P03428:33
John TernusCEO
Yeah. Thanks, Michael. Look, we were thrilled to introduce the iPhone Duo and iPhone 18 Pro earlier this year in September. We have iPhone 17, iPhone Air, and 17e continuing to kind of round out this incredibly strong lineup for the holidays. Obviously, we don't make any comments about future roadmap, but we're excited about where we're at.
好的,谢谢你,Michael。我们在今年 9 月早些时候非常高兴地推出了 iPhone Duo 和 iPhone 18 Pro。同时我们还有 iPhone 17、iPhone Air 和 17e 继续完善这一面向假日季的极其强大的产品阵容。显然,我们不对未来的产品路线图发表任何评论,但我们对目前的产品布局感到非常振奋。
P03528:58
Michael NgAnalyst, Goldman Sachs
Great. Thank you. My second question is just around iCloud+. It seems like it's becoming a more strategic product, just given the tie-in with home security as well as the potential monetization opportunity for Apple Intelligence. I was just wondering, what are you seeing on iCloud+? Are there any tailwinds in terms of attach rates, just particularly given the rising cost for increased storage options on iPhone and the company's push into home products? Thank you.
太好了,谢谢。我的第二个问题是关于 iCloud+ 的。考虑到它与家庭安防的结合以及 Apple Intelligence 的潜在变现机会,它似乎正成为一款更具战略意义的产品。我想知道,你们在 iCloud+ 上看到了怎样的趋势?在付费配售率(attach rates)方面是否存在顺风,特别是考虑到 iPhone 更大存储容量选项的成本上升以及公司在智能家居产品上的发力?谢谢。
P03629:28
John TernusCEO
Yeah. Thanks for the question. I think, we just, in the September quarter, had an all-time record for our cloud services for revenue. You mentioned iCloud+. This is something we're very excited about. We have these iCloud+ plans that now include Apple TV and Apple Arcade in more than 100 countries and regions where we think we can really reach new potential subscribers. Then, as you mentioned, we think there's good opportunities on Apple Intelligence. There's going to be some usage limits on features that rely on server-side models, which include Siri AI and intelligent photo editing and some other things like that. Anyone who needs greater capacity will be able to purchase expanded access in the future. So, kind of to your point, in the beginning, iCloud tiers were largely about storage, but we've been adding more capabilities and features to it.
好的,谢谢你的提问。我们在 9 月季度刚刚创下了云服务营收的历史最高纪录。你提到了 iCloud+,我们对这项业务感到兴奋。我们目前在超过 100 个国家和地区推出的 iCloud+ 订阅方案已包含 Apple TV 和 Apple Arcade,我们认为这能真正触达新的潜在订阅用户。此外,正如你所提到的,我们认为在 Apple Intelligence 方面也存在良好的机遇。依赖服务器端模型的功能——包括 Siri AI、智能照片编辑以及类似的其他功能——将会设置一定的使用额度上限。未来任何需要更大容量的用户都可以购买扩展访问权限。所以正如你所说,最初 iCloud 的订阅分档主要围绕存储空间,但我们一直在为其增加更多能力和功能。
P03730:19
Michael NgAnalyst, Goldman Sachs
Thank you so much, John.
非常感谢,John。
P03830:21
Suhasini ChandramouliHead of Investor Relations
Awesome. Thank you, Mike. Operator, could we get the next question, please?
太好了,谢谢你,Mike。主持人,请接入下一个问题。
P03930:26
Operator
Our next question is from Erik Woodring from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.
我们的下一个问题来自摩根士丹利(Morgan Stanley)的 Erik Woodring。请提问。
P04030:32
Erik WoodringAnalyst, Morgan Stanley
Hey, guys. Thank you for taking my questions, and John, congrats on your first quarter here. As the world of AI evolves from chatbots to consumer agents, it seems like there are growing opportunities for Apple. It also seems like there are risks. John, I'd just love to get your perspective on what role you want Apple and Siri AI to play in kind of this consumer agentic AI landscape, and just how you look at any potential risks of some of these agents trying to encroach on your services business. Then a quick follow-up, please. Thank you.
嘿,各位。感谢接受我的提问,John,祝贺你迎来担任 CEO 的第一个季度。随着 AI 世界从聊天机器人向消费级智能体演进,苹果似乎迎来了越来越多的机遇,但似乎也伴随着风险。John,我很想听听你的看法:你希望苹果和 Siri AI 在消费级智能体 AI 格局中扮演怎样的角色?对于其中一些智能体试图蚕食你们服务业务的潜在风险,你怎么看?随后我还有一个简短的追问。谢谢。
P04131:02
John TernusCEO
Sure. Thanks, Erik. Look, first and foremost, we are incredibly excited to launch Siri AI alongside the latest generation of Apple Intelligence features. Siri has long been popular with our users, with more than 2.5 billion requests every day. With Siri AI, we really have the Siri that we always wanted. It is primarily request-based today, but as we talked about at WWDC, it is built on a modern, orchestrator-driven architecture that gives us real room to expand its capabilities over time. As far as agentic capabilities, we think these are promising tools for users. We just want to make sure that users are aware of what they are giving access to. We want to make sure this is done in a way that protects security and privacy.
好的,谢谢你,Erik。首先也是最重要的是,我们对于随最新一代 Apple Intelligence 功能一同推出 Siri AI 感到无比兴奋。Siri 长期以来深受用户欢迎,每天处理超过 25 亿次请求。有了 Siri AI,我们真正拥有了我们一直想要的 Siri。目前它主要基于请求驱动,但正如我们在 WWDC 上所谈到的,它建立在现代化的、由编排器驱动的架构之上,为我们未来随时间推移扩展其能力留出了充足的空间。至于智能体能力,我们认为这些对用户而言是很有前景的工具。我们只是希望确保用户清楚自己正在授权访问哪些内容。我们希望确保这一切以保护安全和隐私的方式进行。
P04231:44
We are pushing really hard on that with Siri AI, but we are also really encouraged the fact that Apple devices, we think, are the best places to use all forms of AI.
我们正通过 Siri AI 在这方面全力推进,但同样令我们倍感鼓舞的是,我们认为苹果设备是使用各种形态 AI 的最佳平台。
P04331:56
Erik WoodringAnalyst, Morgan Stanley
Okay. Awesome. I appreciate that, John. Then just quickly as a follow-up, if we take a big step back, how should we think about the durability of services growth? I realize that was 10% in the September quarter. We are a little bit below that in the December quarter. As certain things like search evolves and regulatory changes impact App Store monetization, are there new services that we should be looking towards that you believe can become a more sizable offset to maybe take some pressure off these historically important revenue streams? Thanks so much, guys.
好的,太棒了,非常感谢,John。接下来是一个简短的追问:如果我们退后一步从宏观来看,我们应该如何看待服务业务增长的持续性?我知道 9 月季度的增速是 10%,而 12 月季度的指引略低于这一水平。随着搜索等领域不断演进,以及监管变化影响 App Store 的变现,有哪些新服务是我们应当关注的、且你们认为未来能够形成较大规模的对冲,从而缓解这些历史上重要收入来源所承受的压力?非常感谢各位。
P04432:30
Kevan ParekhCFO
Yeah. Hey, Erik. It is Kevan. Thanks for the question. Let me take this one. Let me start by just talking through what we did. We talked about during the September quarter, services grew by 10% year over year, and we look at that relative to the June quarter. Foreign exchange was the main driver in that change on year-on-year growth rate sequentially. We continue to see strong performance in September in many of our service categories, all-time records in video, cloud services, payment services, and advertising, including our first-party Apple Ads, and September quarter record in music. But I think it is important to step back also and look at the progression of what we see in our services business over the last several quarters. I think it is an important backdrop.
好的,嘿,Erik,我是 Kevan。感谢你的提问,这个问题由我来回答。我先回顾一下我们的实际表现。我们刚才提到,在 9 月季度,服务业务同比增长 10%,我们将其与 6 月季度进行对比来看,汇率是同比增速环比变化的主要驱动因素。9 月份我们在许多服务类别继续看到强劲表现,视频、云服务、支付服务以及包括第一方 Apple Ads 在内的广告业务均创下历史新高,音乐业务创下 9 月季度纪录。但我认为同样重要的是退后一步,看看过去几个季度我们服务业务的发展轨迹,我认为这是一个重要的背景。
P04533:07
We spoke about in the last call, we expected foreign exchange to be the largest driver of the change in the year-on-year growth rate from the March to September quarter. This ended up being a significant headwind of about 4 percentage points, and we expect additional sequential headwind of about another half of a percentage point for the services business as we go into the December quarter. We've also seen some factors that impacted the performance of the App Store. During the September quarter, the performance on the App Store was similar to the prior year, and we had a record number of paid subscriptions with double-digit growth for third-party apps on the App Store. At the same time, we did see some headwinds in mobile gaming that we've talked about before and expect to see those continue into the December quarter.
我们在上一次电话会议中谈到,预计汇率将是 3 月季度到 9 月季度期间同比增速变化的最大驱动因素。最终汇率造成了约 4 个百分点的显著逆风,而且随着进入 12 月季度,我们预计服务业务还将面临约 0.5 个百分点的额外环比汇率逆风。我们还看到了一些影响 App Store 表现的因素。在 9 月季度,App Store 的表现与上年同期相近,App Store 上第三方应用的付费订阅数量创下历史新高,并实现了两位数增长。与此同时,我们也确实在移动游戏领域看到了一些此前提到过的逆风,并预计这些逆风将持续到 12 月季度。
P04633:44
Keep in mind, we also made some changes to the App Store business model in certain countries, and in the U.S., we continue to operate under a court ruling impacting the link-out transactions. As we move ahead, we expect services growth to be between 8%-9%, as I mentioned in the prepared remarks, in the December quarter, and this outlook contemplates our best estimates on sequential headwinds, primarily from third-party licensing and the additional half percentage point of foreign exchange I just mentioned. I'll turn it over to John to talk about some perspectives as we look ahead.
请记住,我们还在部分国家对 App Store 的商业模式进行了一些调整,而在美国,我们继续在影响外链交易(link-out transactions)的法院裁决下运营。展望未来,正如我在开场陈述中提到的,我们预计 12 月季度服务业务将增长 8% 至 9%,这一展望考虑了我们对环比逆风的最佳估计——主要来自第三方授权业务,以及我刚才提到的额外 0.5 个百分点的汇率影响。下面我把时间交给 John,谈谈我们对未来的展望。
P04734:14
John TernusCEO
Yeah. Thanks. I guess I'd like to add to that, Erik. I think fundamentally, we feel really good about the long-term opportunity that we have in our services business. We see continued growth in the install base of over 2.5 billion active devices, which is fundamentally the foundation for future growth as more customers are able to experience our products and services. Example of this, during the September quarter, App Store saw a record number of nearly a billion average weekly visitors, and we saw growth in the number of users who are paying for at least one service, reaching an all-time high. Another good example of this, in India, we recently launched Apple Pay with Axis Bank, bringing the seamless, safe, secure way to pay to one of the biggest markets in the world.
好的,谢谢。Erik,我想补充几点。我认为从根本上说,我们对服务业务所拥有的长期机遇感到非常乐观。我们看到超过 25 亿台活跃设备的装机量持续增长,随着越来越多客户能够体验我们的产品和服务,这从根本上构成了未来增长的基石。举个例子,在 9 月季度,App Store 的平均每周访问量创下了近 10 亿人次的纪录,而且至少为 1 项服务付费的用户数量实现增长并创下历史新高。另一个很好的例子是在印度,我们最近与 Axis Bank 合作推出了 Apple Pay,将流畅、安全、可靠的支付方式带到了全球最大的市场之一。
P04834:54
On top of all this, as we talked about, we think intelligence is going to be another opportunity as well. Overall, we're feeling really good about where we're headed in the long term.
除上述所有因素外,正如我们刚才谈到的,我们认为智能(Intelligence)也将成为另一个机遇。总体而言,我们对长期的发展方向感到非常有信心。
P04935:04
Erik WoodringAnalyst, Morgan Stanley
Awesome, guys. Thanks so much for the color. Best of luck.
太棒了,非常感谢各位提供的详细信息。祝一切顺利。
P05035:07
Suhasini ChandramouliHead of Investor Relations
Thanks, Erik. Operator, could we take the next question, please?
谢谢你,Erik。主持人,请接入下一个问题。
P05135:12
Operator
Our next question is from Amit Daryanani from Evercore. Please go ahead.
我们的下一个问题来自 Evercore 的 Amit Daryanani。请提问。
P05235:18
Amit DaryananiAnalyst, Evercore
Yep. Thanks a lot, and congrats on mine as well, John, on your first earnings call here. John, you sort of described the iPhone as the intelligent personal hub in your opening comments, and as personal AI agents become more prominent, do you see the potential for the primary customer relationship to shift from the device to the agent over time? Really, given Apple's integration of Apple silicon, hardware, and software, where do you see the greatest opportunity to combine things like personal context and on-screen awareness into an agent that can perhaps move beyond answering questions? How far along do you think Siri is in bringing those pieces together right now?
好的,非常感谢,John,我也祝贺你迎来首次财报电话会议。John,你在开场发言中将 iPhone 描述为智能个人中枢,随着个人 AI 智能体变得越来越突出,你认为长期来看主要客户关系是否有可能从设备转移到智能体上?另外,鉴于苹果在 Apple silicon、硬件和软件上的深度整合,你认为在结合个人情境和屏幕感知能力、打造能够超越单纯回答问题的智能体方面,最大的机遇在哪里?你认为目前 Siri 在整合这些要素方面进展到了什么程度?
P05335:59
John TernusCEO
Yeah. Thank you, Amit, for the question. As I said before, and we said in our announcement, we really do think of the iPhone as the intelligent personal hub. I mean, if you think about it, so much of your personal data is on your iPhone, whether it's your contacts, your communications, health data, financial data, all of that. Siri can tap into that and help you access it in a way that's very secure and private and that nobody else has access to. Even Apple doesn't have access to it. We think that is a core kind of differentiator that we're excited about, and we're going to continue to push on that. I think this is an area that we feel really good about.
好的,谢谢你的提问,Amit。正如我之前以及我们在发布会上所说的,我们确实将 iPhone 视为智能个人中枢。你想想看,你有如此多的个人数据存储在 iPhone 上——无论是联系人、通信记录、健康数据还是财务数据,全都在上面。Siri 可以调用这些信息,并以非常安全、私密且其他任何人都无法访问的方式帮助你使用它们,甚至连苹果也无法访问。我们认为这是一个令我们兴奋的核心差异化优势,我们将继续在这方面大力推进。我认为这是一个我们非常看好的领域。
P05436:43
Amit DaryananiAnalyst, Evercore
Got it. Kevin, the December quarter gross margin, I wonder if you'd spend a bit of time on that. I think if I exclude all the tariff refunds, you started implying gross margin would be down about 140 basis points sequentially at least. Can you separate how much of this is maybe commodity memory inflation versus mix versus, you called out Siri AI ramp costs as well? Could you just talk about what the different moving parts are as you think about the sequential gross margin? That would be helpful. Thank you.
明白了。Kevan(注:原文误作 Kevin),关于 12 月季度的毛利率,不知你能否多花一点时间谈谈。我想如果剔除所有关税退款,你们的指引意味着毛利率环比至少下降约 140 个基点。你能否拆分一下,其中有多少来自大宗商品内存涨价、多少来自产品结构、又有多少来自你提到的 Siri AI 推广上量成本?能否谈谈在考虑环比毛利率变动时有哪些不同的影响因素?这会很有帮助,谢谢。
P05537:09
Kevan ParekhCFO
Yeah, Amit, sounds good. Let me try to address that for you. As you alluded, for the December quarter, we talked about a gross margin outlook of between 45% and 46%. As you said, when you remove the benefit of the tariff refunds in September, the midpoint of the range is a decline sequentially in the magnitude you mentioned. We expect most of that decline to be driven by higher memory costs, and I'll give John kind of the mic here to give you perspective on that, and then I'll take the balance of your question.
好的,Amit,没问题,我来为你解答这个问题。正如你所提到的,对于 12 月季度,我们给出的毛利率展望在 45% 至 46% 之间。正如你所说,如果剔除 9 月季度关税退款带来的收益,该指引区间的中点环比下降幅度正如你刚才提到的量级。我们预计这一下降绝大部分是由内存成本上升驱动的。下面我先把麦克风交给 John 谈谈对内存的看法,然后我再回答你问题的其余部分。
P05637:34
John TernusCEO
Yeah, let me give you an overall view on memory. What we're seeing with memory pricing right now is unprecedented. As we said earlier in the September quarter, we did see higher memory costs as compared to the June quarter, which were partly offset by the benefit of carry-in inventory and lower costs on certain non-memory components. For the December quarter, we expect even higher memory costs, partly offset by a few factors. As you know, we changed the price on many of our products, including Mac and iPad at the end of June and iPhone in September, and these price increases provided some offset. We also expect to see some benefit from carry-in inventory in the December quarter as well, as well as lower costs on certain non-memory components. Looking beyond the December quarter, we see the pricing for memory purchases continuing to increase.
好的,我来介绍一下内存方面的整体情况。我们目前看到的内存价格走势是前所未有的。正如我们早些时候提到的,在 9 月季度,相比 6 月季度我们确实面临了更高的内存成本,但这部分被期初结转库存带来的收益以及部分非内存零部件成本的下降所抵消。对于 12 月季度,我们预计内存成本将进一步升高,同样会有几个因素起到部分抵消作用。如你所知,我们调整了许多产品的价格,包括在 6 月底调整了 Mac 和 iPad 的价格,以及在 9 月调整了 iPhone 的价格,这些提价举措提供了一定程度的抵消。我们预计在 12 月季度仍能从期初结转库存以及部分非内存零部件成本下降中获得一定收益。展望 12 月季度之后,我们看到内存采购价格仍在继续上涨。
P05738:23
As we said before, we do believe we will see a decreasing benefit from the carry-in inventory on memory over time. There is one more thing I wanted to add. As we work to improve supply, our manufacturing purchase obligations have increased by $33 billion from June to the September quarter, which you will see in our annual filing when it comes out tomorrow. Now back to Kevan for the other parts of it.
正如我们之前所说,我们认为随着时间推移,内存期初结转库存带来的缓冲收益将会逐步减少。我还想补充 1 点:随着我们努力改善供应状况,我们的生产采购承诺(manufacturing purchase obligations)从 6 月季度到 9 月季度增加了 330 亿美元,你们将在明天发布的年度报告中看到这一数据。现在交还给 Kevan 回答其余部分。
P05838:45
Kevan ParekhCFO
Yeah, Amit, you mentioned Siri AI and what I alluded to in the prepared remarks. As we continue to roll out Siri AI to more customers, the associated cloud costs will be recognized through services cost of sales. Consistent with how we have always accounted for Maps, Siri, and iCloud for the devices we sell that include these bundled services, we defer a portion of the revenue and recognize it over the life of the device. Our hardware deferrals as of the December quarter will reflect the addition of Siri AI. Both of these items will have an impact to the gross margin. As always, we look to continue to make the investments necessary to support the business, and we also see a wide range of ways that AI can contribute to revenue growth over time.
好的,Amit,你提到了 Siri AI 以及我在开场陈述中提及的内容。随着我们将 Siri AI 推广给更多客户,相关的云端成本将通过服务业务营业成本进行确认。与我们一直以来对所售设备中捆绑的 Maps、Siri 和 iCloud 等服务的会计处理方式一致,我们会将一部分硬件收入递延,并在设备使用寿命期内逐步确认。自 12 月季度起,我们的硬件递延收入将反映新增的 Siri AI。这两项因素都将对毛利率产生影响。一如既往,我们会继续进行必要的投入以支持业务发展,同时我们也看到 AI 在长期内可以通过多种方式为营收增长作出贡献。
P05939:21
On the product side, we feel AI offers a compelling reason for customers to upgrade and switch in order to get the latest capabilities, and we also feel there are opportunities across third-party apps and partnerships as well as first-party opportunities, as John highlighted earlier, with the expanded access to server-side features of Siri AI and Apple Intelligence features as well.
在产品端,我们认为 AI 为客户升级换代或转投苹果阵营以获取最新功能提供了极具说服力的理由;同时我们也认为,在第三方应用与合作关系以及第一方业务中均存在机遇,正如 John 早些时候所强调的,客户可以购买 Siri AI 和 Apple Intelligence 服务器端功能的扩展访问权限。
P06039:44
Amit DaryananiAnalyst, Evercore
Really helpful. Thank you.
非常有帮助,谢谢。
P06139:46
Suhasini ChandramouliHead of Investor Relations
Thank you, Amit. Operator, could we have the next question, please?
谢谢你,Amit。主持人,请接入下一个问题。
P06239:51
Operator
Our next question is from Ben Reitzes from Melius Research. Please go ahead.
我们的下一个问题来自 Melius Research 的 Ben Reitzes。请提问。
P06339:58
Ben ReitzesAnalyst, Melius Research
Hey, guys. Thanks. Hey, John, my first question, I wanted to ask you about your cash neutral policy. On one of the previous calls, you guys said that you weren't going to focus on that anymore and that that was no longer the policy. Under your leadership, what do you mean by that? Do you mean like you may go to net debt to buy back stock or do some M&A or go the opposite way and hoard some cash again? Your thoughts on that would be welcome. Thanks.
嘿,各位,谢谢。嘿,John,我的第一个问题想请教你关于净现金中性(cash neutral)政策。在之前的某次电话会议上,你们曾表示不再以净现金中性为关注重点,那已不再是公司的政策。在你的领导下,这意味着什么?意思是你们可能会转向净负债来回购股票或进行并购,还是反过来再次储备大量现金?欢迎分享你的想法。谢谢。
P06440:33
Kevan ParekhCFO
Yeah. Hey, Ben, it's Kevan. Let me take that one. As you know, we did talk about the fact that we're no longer using net cash neutral as a target. I think as we explained on the last call, the last time we talked about that was the fact that we think it makes sense to evaluate our cash and debt position independently and making sure we can optimize that and giving us the right flexibility. We remain committed to our capital allocation philosophy, which is we're going to invest everything we need to invest in our business and return excess cash to shareholders. We continue to maintain that discipline, and we do think this removal of net cash neutral gives us flexibility to optimize so we can make the right investments for the company.
好的,嘿,Ben,我是 Kevan,这个问题由我来回答。如你所知,我们确实谈到过不再将净现金中性作为目标。正如我们在上次电话会议、也是最后一次讨论该话题时所解释的,我们认为独立评估现金和债务状况、确保实现最优化并为我们提供适当的灵活性是合理的。我们依然坚定维持我们的资本配置理念,即全力投入业务发展所需的一切资金,并将多余现金返还给股东。我们继续保持这一纪律,同时我们确实认为取消净现金中性目标为我们提供了优化空间和灵活性,使我们能够为公司作出正确的投资。
P06541:16
Ben ReitzesAnalyst, Melius Research
All right, thanks. I wanted to ask about services. I realize you only guide one quarter at a time, but from the 8% to 9%, when you think long term, I was wondering if you are willing to say you think whether it can accelerate from there and whether AI could help you launch new services we have not thought of yet that are accretive to the growth rate there. Thanks.
好的,谢谢。我想问一下关于服务业务的问题。我知道你们每次只提供 1 个季度的指引,但从 8% 至 9% 的增速来看,当你思考长期前景时,不知你是否愿意谈谈服务增速未来能否在此基础上加速?AI 能否帮助你们推出我们尚未想到的新服务,从而提升服务业务的增长率?谢谢。
P06641:43
Kevan ParekhCFO
Yeah, I think, Ben, on that one, I think you heard John talk about a lot of the long-term attributes that we really feel give us optimism about the long-term opportunity in our services business. Again, I think we talked about things like the installed base of over 2.5 billion active devices. We obviously saw a record number of weekly visitors in the App Store in the September quarter. We also continue to see growth in users who are paying for at least a service, reaching an all-time high in both transacting and paid accounts. We are excited about emerging markets. We talked about the launch of Apple Pay in India, but we continue to see good momentum in emerging markets in our services business, where we had double-digit growth.
好的,Ben,关于这个问题,我想你刚才已经听到 John 谈到了许多让我们对服务业务长期机遇充满信心的长期驱动因素。我们再次提到了超过 25 亿台活跃设备的装机量。我们在 9 月季度显然看到了 App Store 每周访问量创下历史纪录。我们还看到至少为 1 项服务付费的用户数量持续增长,交易账户数和付费账户数均创下历史新高。我们对新兴市场感到振奋,刚才提到了在印度推出 Apple Pay,我们在新兴市场的服务业务继续保持良好势头,实现了两位数增长。
P06742:16
We continue to feel really bullish about all the different elements as we look ahead to the longer arc of time. I think, as John mentioned, we are continuing to improve the features and reach of existing and new services as well. The example was the expansion of iCloud plans to include Apple TV and Apple Arcade, obviously reaching a lot of new potential subscribers. AppleCare One Family is another example of that. We continue to look for opportunities to grow our services business.
展望更长远的时间维度,我们依然非常看好服务业务的各项构成要素。正如 John 所提到的,我们也在持续改进现有服务和新服务的功能与覆盖范围。比如将 iCloud 订阅方案扩展至包含 Apple TV 和 Apple Arcade,这显然能够触达大量新的潜在订阅用户。AppleCare One Family 是另一个例子。我们将继续寻找壮大服务业务的机遇。
P06842:48
Ben ReitzesAnalyst, Melius Research
Thank you.
谢谢。
P06942:49
Suhasini ChandramouliHead of Investor Relations
All right. Thank you, Ben. Operator, could we have the next question, please?
好的,谢谢你,Ben。主持人,请接入下一个问题。
P07042:54
Operator
Our next question is from Wamsi Mohan from Bank of America. Please go ahead.
我们的下一个问题来自美国银行(Bank of America)的 Wamsi Mohan。请提问。
P07143:02
Wamsi MohanAnalyst, Bank of America
Yes, thank you so much. John, great to have you on the call as CEO. I appreciate the comments on memory. Clearly, you are now competing for memory more so versus historically from pretty well-capitalized companies who are signing long-term agreements. My question is Apple changing anything in the way that you are procuring memory? How do you think about the progression of memory over time? If it continues to be a headwind, is pricing also going to remain dynamic and potentially move higher? I have a follow-up.
好的,非常感谢。John,很高兴在电话会议上看到你作为 CEO 出席。感谢刚才关于内存的说明。显然,与历史情况相比,你们现在面临更激烈的内存采购竞争,竞争对手是资金相当雄厚、且正在签署长期协议的公司。我的问题是,苹果在内存采购方式上是否做出了任何改变?你们如何看待内存成本随时间推移的演变?如果内存继续构成逆风,产品定价是否也会保持动态调整并可能进一步上调?我还有一个追问。
P07243:35
Sabih KhanCOO
Hi, good afternoon, Wamsi. This is Sabih. Let me take that one. As you know, we have worked with many of our suppliers for decades, and we deeply value their partnership over the years. We know our products would simply not be possible without them, and we look forward to continuing to work together. We are always working hard to improve supply, and as John said earlier, our manufacturing purchase obligations have increased by $33 billion from the June to the September quarter.
嗨,下午好,Wamsi。我是 Sabih,这个问题由我来回答。如你所知,我们与许多供应商已经合作了数十年,我们非常珍视双方多年来的合作伙伴关系。我们深知没有他们就不可能有我们的产品,我们期待继续携手合作。我们一直在努力改善供应状况,正如 John 早些时候提到的,我们的生产采购承诺从 6 月季度到 9 月季度增加了 330 亿美元。
P07344:06
Kevan ParekhCFO
Wamsi, maybe I will add here, because you asked the question about pricing and how we are managing it. So, look, we are trying to manage this with a number of actions. You heard us talk about the fact we are continuing to pursue lower costs, and now on memory components, John mentioned the fact that we have some benefit of carry-in inventory. We did reluctantly make the decision to change pricing on a number of our products, starting with the iPad and Mac in the June timeframe, and then iPhone more recently in September. I think what we try to do is evaluate, and doing all that, we evaluate the unit's revenue margin, and we are really being thoughtful and deliberate at evaluating kind of the short-term and long-term considerations, and we really believe we are balancing this well.
Wamsi,我来补充一点,因为你问到了关于定价以及我们如何管理的问题。我们正在通过多项举措来应对这一挑战。你听到我们谈到,我们正在继续设法降低成本;在内存零部件方面,John 提到我们得益于期初结转库存带来的部分缓冲。我们确实不情愿地作出了调整多款产品价格的决定,先是在 6 月前后调整了 iPad 和 Mac 的价格,随后在最近的 9 月调整了 iPhone 的价格。在这一过程中,我们综合评估销量、营收和利润率,非常审慎、周密地权衡短期和长期因素,我们相信自己在这方面取得了良好的平衡。
P07444:44
Wamsi MohanAnalyst, Bank of America
Okay, thanks, Kevan. Thanks, Sabih. I guess my follow-up is on Siri AI. In the early days of launching this, can you give us some sense of how the token consumption associated with Siri AI is being done on-device versus Private Cloud Compute versus GCP? Have you started to see any acceleration of usage? If it does accelerate really fast globally, would it change your outlook on what you need to spend for compute? Thank you so much.
好的,谢谢 Kevan,谢谢 Sabih。我的追问是关于 Siri AI 的。在刚推出的初期阶段,你们能否透露一下与 Siri AI 相关的 token 消耗在端侧、私有云计算(Private Cloud Compute)以及 GCP(Google Cloud Platform)之间的分配比例大致如何?你们是否已经开始看到使用量加速增长?如果全球使用量真的快速激增,这是否会改变你们对算力支出需求的展望?非常感谢。
P07545:14
Kevan ParekhCFO
You know, Wamsi, I can take that one as well. So we do envision Siri AI to kind of have queries that kind of are managed on-device and also in the Private Cloud Compute environment that we have outlined. The mix of that is still very early days, so it is hard to predict exactly what the mix of those costs are going to look like. Obviously, on-device is very, very efficient, no real cost associated with that. But on the server side, we would have some inference costs, and that is really the connection of the Siri AI-related costs that I mentioned that would be recognized with services cost of sales.
Wamsi,这个问题也由我来回答。我们设想的架构确实是由端侧以及我们所阐述的私有云计算(Private Cloud Compute)环境共同处理 Siri AI 的查询请求。目前的请求分配比例还处于非常早期的阶段,因此很难准确预测这些成本的具体结构会是什么样。显然,端侧处理效率极高,几乎不会产生额外成本。但在服务器端,我们会产生一些推理成本,这也正是我刚才提到的将通过服务业务营业成本确认的 Siri AI 相关成本。
P07645:47
But I think, again, we have just recently launched it and made it available to more users, so in very, very early stages of understanding the kind of mix of those costs, as well as any further requirements we might have on the compute side.
但我想再次强调,我们刚刚推出这项功能并向更多用户开放,因此在了解这些成本的结构以及我们在算力方面的任何进一步需求上,目前还处于非常早期的阶段。
P07746:03
Wamsi MohanAnalyst, Bank of America
Thanks, Kevan.
谢谢你,Kevan。
P07846:04
Suhasini ChandramouliHead of Investor Relations
Thank you, Wamsi. Operator, could we have the next question, please?
谢谢你,Wamsi。主持人,请接入下一个问题。
P07946:09
Operator
Our next question is from Samik Chatterjee from JPMorgan. Please go ahead.
我们的下一个问题来自摩根大通(JPMorgan)的 Samik Chatterjee。请提问。
P08046:16
Samik ChatterjeeAnalyst, JPMorgan
Hi. Thanks for taking my question. John, Sabih, good to get a chance to talk to you guys, and Kevan, same there. Maybe on the Duo, can I just ask in terms of maybe your thoughts in terms of or learnings from the launch of the Duo and the demand that you've seen on that front? What are the sort of supply chain-related issues that you're facing right now that you probably need to iron out if you're trying to meet demand on that front? Any more visibility there? When you reach supply-demand balance on the Duo as well will be helpful. I have a quick follow-up. Thank you.
嗨,感谢接受我的提问。John、Sabih,很高兴有机会与你们交流,Kevan 也一样。关于 Duo,我能否请教一下你们从 Duo 的发布中获得了哪些思考或经验,以及你们在这方面看到的需求情况?为了满足这方面的需求,你们目前面临哪些需要解决的供应链相关问题?能否提供更多可见度,比如 Duo 何时能够实现供需平衡?我还有一个简短的追问。谢谢。
P08146:53
Sabih KhanCOO
Hi, Samik. This is Sabih. Let me start with that question. We are thrilled with the initial response on the iPhone Duo. iPhone Duo is constrained as of today. The ramp is going well, and we are working hard to get this revolutionary new product into the hands of our customers as quickly as possible. But at this time, it is really hard to predict when supply and demand will be in balance.
嗨,Samik,我是 Sabih,我先来回答这个问题。我们对 iPhone Duo 的初步市场反响感到无比振奋。截至今天,iPhone Duo 处于供给受限状态。产能爬坡进展顺利,我们正在全力以赴,尽快将这款革命性的新产品交到客户手中。但在目前阶段,确实很难预测何时能够实现供需平衡。
P08247:20
Samik ChatterjeeAnalyst, JPMorgan
Okay. Okay, good. Then maybe, Kevan, for you, just in terms of you have mentioned supply chain constraints impacting September quarter and going into December, but any way to sort of help us think about whether those are getting overall for the company? Are those increasing in terms of magnitude relative to sort of the impact on revenue? If you are willing to sort of quantify those impacts for September and December?
好的,明白了。接下来有个问题想请教 Kevan:你提到了供应链受限影响了 9 月季度并将延续到 12 月季度,能否帮助我们理解一下,从公司整体来看,这些供给限制对营收的影响程度是否在扩大?你们是否愿意量化这些限制对 9 月季度和 12 月季度的具体影响?
P08347:44
Sabih KhanCOO
Yeah, let me start with that. This is Sabih. During the September quarter, we experienced supply constraints on iPhone, Mac, and iPad, and this was driven by the high levels of demand. As we have said before, we are seeing less flexibility in the supply chain than normal. The Q4 constraints were primarily driven by the availability of the advanced nodes our SoCs are produced on. But as we have transitioned more of our lineup to the latest 2-nanometer technology nodes, our constraints on advanced nodes are easing. For the December quarter, we expect constraints on Mac and iPad, primarily driven by memory, as demand has been higher than what we expected.
好的,这个问题也由我先回答,我是 Sabih。在 9 月季度,我们的 iPhone、Mac 和 iPad 均经历了供给受限,这主要是由高企的需求水平驱动的。正如我们之前所说,我们看到供应链的弹性比正常时期有所降低。第四季度的供给限制主要受我们系统级芯片(SoC)所采用的先进制程产能制约。但随着我们将更多产品线过渡到最新的 2 纳米技术节点,我们在先进制程节点上的制约正在缓解。对于 12 月季度,我们预计 Mac 和 iPad 将面临供给受限,主要受内存供应制约,因为需求超出了我们的预期。
P08448:32
Samik ChatterjeeAnalyst, JPMorgan
Thank you.
谢谢。
P08548:33
Suhasini ChandramouliHead of Investor Relations
Thank you, Samik. Operator, could we take the next question, please?
谢谢你,Samik。主持人,请接入下一个问题。
P08648:38
Operator
Our next question is from Krish Sankar from TD Cowen. Please go ahead.
我们的下一个问题来自 TD Cowen 的 Krish Sankar。请提问。
P08748:44
Krish SankarAnalyst, TD Cowen
Yeah. Hi. Thanks for taking my question. First one is for either Kevan or Sabih. I understand the memory price inflation. Kevan, it seems like it's probably like 1-1.5 or 2 percentage points. A, is that true? Sabih, I'm just wondering, is there an availability issue with memory? Are you signing LTAs with memory suppliers so that availability is not an issue, even though pricing could still be an issue down the road? I had a quick follow-up.
好的,嗨,感谢接受我的提问。第一个问题想请教 Kevan 或 Sabih。我理解内存价格上涨的情况。Kevan,看起来这对利润率的影响大概在 1 至 1.5 或 2 个百分点左右。第一,这个判断准确吗?Sabih,我想知道内存是否存在供应可得性(availability)方面的问题?你们是否正在与内存供应商签署长期协议(LTA),以确保供应量不成问题(即便未来价格仍可能是一个挑战)?我还有一个简短的追问。
P08849:15
Sabih KhanCOO
Yeah. Thanks, Krish. As we said earlier, we are continuing to work to improve supply, and you'll see that our manufacturing purchase obligations have increased by $33 billion from the June to the September quarter.
好的,谢谢你,Krish。正如我们早些时候提到的,我们正在持续努力改善供应状况,你会看到我们的生产采购承诺从 6 月季度到 9 月季度增加了 330 亿美元。
P08949:33
Krish SankarAnalyst, TD Cowen
Got it. Any comments on the margin impact to think about going forward, Kevin?
明白了。Kevan(注:原文误作 Kevin),对于未来的利润率影响,你有什么评论吗?
P09049:40
Kevan ParekhCFO
Well, I think, Krish, let me maybe take that one. I know you'd asked about it. So when we look at the margin change from the June quarter to the September quarter, and you remove the impact of the tariffs from both the June quarter and September quarter, we saw about a one-point sequential change in margin, and that was driven entirely by memory impacts. Now, we did have some offsets because the gross memory impact was larger than that, but we had some offsets, as John talked about earlier, driven by the benefit of carry-in inventory, some offsets from non-memory costs, as well as some of the benefits of pricing. As we talked about, we expect the memory costs to continue to be a challenge for us as we look in the December quarter, and our guide contemplates that right now.
好的,Krish,这个问题由我来回答,我知道你刚才问到了这一点。当我们观察从 6 月季度到 9 月季度的毛利率变动时,如果剔除 6 月季度和 9 月季度的关税退款影响,我们看到毛利率环比变动了约 1 个百分点,而这完全是由内存成本冲击驱动的。实际上,内存成本带来的毛冲击幅度比这更大,但正如 John 早些时候所谈到的,我们获得了一些抵消因素,包括期初结转库存带来的缓冲收益、非内存零部件成本下降带来的部分抵消,以及产品提价带来的部分收益。正如我们所讨论的,展望 12 月季度,我们预计内存成本将继续构成挑战,我们目前的指引已经考虑了这一因素。
P09150:25
If you look at the midpoint, most of this sequential decline we're expecting for the December quarter, we expect to be driven by higher memory costs.
如果看指引区间的中点,我们预计 12 月季度环比毛利率下滑的绝大部分是由内存成本上升驱动的。
P09250:33
Krish SankarAnalyst, TD Cowen
Gotcha. Just a quick follow-up for John, and John, congrats on the first call. It seems like consumer AI agent space is seeing increasing competition with several app-based options. I'm just wondering, when you look at the agentic capability of Siri built into the OS platform versus AI agents that are confined within an app architecture, how do you see that evolving?
明白了。还有一个简短的追问想请教 John,同时也祝贺 John 迎来首次电话会议。消费级 AI 智能体领域的竞争似乎正在加剧,市面上出现了多款基于应用的智能体产品。我想知道,当你对比内置于操作系统平台中的 Siri 智能体能力与局限在应用架构内的 AI 智能体时,你认为这一格局将如何演变?
P09350:57
John TernusCEO
Yeah. Thanks, Krish. As I said before, Siri right now is primarily request-based, and as we talked about before, it is built on a modern orchestrator-driven architecture. We see an opportunity to expand its capabilities over time. We think fundamentally, what is most important to us is that we are giving people these capabilities that are private and secure, and we are really focused on protecting people's data.
好的,谢谢你,Krish。正如我之前所说,Siri 目前主要基于请求驱动,而且如前所述,它建立在现代化的、由编排器驱动的架构之上。我们看到未来随时间推移扩展其能力的良好机遇。我们认为,从根本上说,对我们最重要的是为用户提供私密且安全的智能能力,我们高度专注于保护用户的数据安全。
P09451:27
Krish SankarAnalyst, TD Cowen
Thanks, John.
谢谢你,John。
P09551:29
Suhasini ChandramouliHead of Investor Relations
Thank you, Krish. Operator, could we take the next question, please?
谢谢你,Krish。主持人,请接入下一个问题。
P09651:33
Operator
Our next question is from David Vogt from UBS. Please go ahead.
我们的下一个问题来自瑞银(UBS)的 David Vogt。请提问。
P09751:40
David VogtAnalyst, UBS
Great. Thanks, guys, for taking my questions, and congrats, John. Maybe wanted to start with Kevin. If I kind of unpack the comments around supply chain, about availability of components, and your outlook for the December quarter, can you help us understand sort of the difference or maybe the delta of quantity versus price across sort of the product lineup? Because it certainly looks like you're looking at double-digit growth across the iPhone and the Mac business, and we all know, I think, in the industry that there's been pretty strong price inflation across the PC/Mac ecosystem, and you guys mentioned that you've reluctantly taken price as well. So, can you help us understand kind of what's the driving dynamics in that market? Then I have a follow-up.
太好了,感谢各位接受我的提问,也祝贺 John。我想先请教 Kevan(注:原文误作 Kevin)。如果我拆解一下你们关于供应链、零部件供应可得性以及 12 月季度展望的表述,你能否帮助我们理解整个产品阵容中销量与价格各自的贡献差异(delta)?因为看起来你们预计 iPhone 和 Mac 业务将实现两位数增长,而我们都知道整个 PC/Mac 生态系统中存在相当明显的价格上涨,你们也提到不情愿地进行了提价。那么,你能否帮助我们理解推动这一市场表现的深层动力是什么?之后我还有一个追问。
P09852:20
Kevan ParekhCFO
Yeah, David, thanks for the question. This is Kevin. We don't normally provide that level of detail or color as we look at the outlook, other than to say, again, we did guide to 7%-10% year-on-year. Again, just as a reminder, that is on top of a phenomenal December quarter last year, where revenue grew 16%. We don't provide the level of detail, but I would say it's early to really read price elasticity at this point in time. The iPad and Mac were constrained since we made those adjustments, and again, we just recently just adjusted the price on iPhone, so it's really early to really assess any elasticity impact at this stage.
好的,David,感谢你的提问,我是 Kevan(注:原文误作 Kevin)。在展望未来业绩时,我们通常不提供那种颗粒度的细节或拆分,只能再次重申我们给出的指引是同比增长 7% 至 10%。同时提醒一下,这一增速是建立在去年极其出色的 12 月季度(当时营收同比增长 16%)高基数之上的。我们不提供具体拆分细节,但我想说的是,在当前时间点判断价格弹性还为时尚早。自我们作出价格调整以来,iPad 和 Mac 一直处于供给受限状态,而且我们最近才刚刚调整了 iPhone 的价格,因此在现阶段评估任何价格弹性影响确实还为时过早。
P09952:58
David VogtAnalyst, UBS
Yeah, great. Then maybe just as a follow-up, going back to the investment cycle, whether it's agentic, Siri-related, it looks like you guys are coming off of a year of very aggressive investments in R&D to fund the business going forward and to grow the business. If I just think about kind of the commentary on Q1 of fiscal 2027, certainly sounds like that spending is moderating a little bit. Can you maybe walk through some of the puts and takes in terms of what's driving that moderation in spend across the operating line items? Thanks.
好的,太棒了。那我再追问一个关于投资周期的问题:无论是智能体还是 Siri 相关投入,看起来你们刚刚经历了研发投入非常激进的一年,以支持业务未来的发展和增长。如果我看一下你们对 2027 财年第一季度的展望说明,听起来这方面的支出增速似乎正在有所放缓。你能否梳理一下背后的增减因素,谈谈是什么在推动营业费用各分项支出增速的放缓?谢谢。
P10053:26
Kevan ParekhCFO
Yeah, David, again, here we don't break out detail on our outlook, but I would reiterate the fact that for the December quarter, we do expect OpEx to grow between 11% and 13% year-over-year, which is driven by increased and continued investment in R&D, in particular AI. This growth rate is coming down, as you alluded, from the levels of growth we had in FY 2026, but as we've said before, we continue to significantly increase our overall investments in AI while continuing to invest in the product roadmap, and our December guide is a continued reflection of that.
好的,David,同样地,我们不对展望做进一步的分项拆解,但我想重申,对于 12 月季度,我们确实预计营业费用将同比增长 11% 至 13%,这主要受持续增加的研发投入(尤其是 AI 领域投入)驱动。正如你所提到的,这一增速相比我们在 2026 财年的增长水平有所回落,但正如我们之前所说,我们在继续投资产品路线图的同时,正持续大幅增加对 AI 的整体投入,而我们 12 月季度的指引正是这一策略的延续。
P10153:57
John TernusCEO
Yeah, I will just add-
是的,我只想补充一点——
P10253:58
David VogtAnalyst, UBS
Great. Thanks, Kevan.
太好了,谢谢你,Kevan。
P10353:58
John TernusCEO
that we feel confident that we are spending what we need to spend to achieve our roadmap.
——我们很有信心,我们正在投入实现产品路线图所需的一切资金。
P10454:05
David VogtAnalyst, UBS
Thanks, John.
谢谢你,John。
P10554:06
Suhasini ChandramouliHead of Investor Relations
Awesome. Thank you, David. Operator, could we have the next question, please?
太好了,谢谢你,David。主持人,请接入下一个问题。
P10654:11
Operator
Our next question is from Richard Kramer from Arete Research. Please go ahead.
我们的下一个问题来自 Arete Research 的 Richard Kramer。请提问。
P10754:18
Richard KramerAnalyst, Arete Research
Thanks very much. John, your latest MacBook Pros included more iOS features like Touch and Dynamic Island, as well as obviously Siri AI. Should we anticipate further close linking of macOS and iOS features, maybe even pointing at some point to a single unified OS, either for simplicity or to reduce costs? And I have a follow-up. Thanks.
非常感谢。John,你们最新款的 MacBook Pro 融入了更多 iOS 功能,比如触控(Touch)和灵动岛(Dynamic Island),当然还有 Siri AI。我们是否可以预期未来 macOS 和 iOS 功能会进一步紧密联动,甚至在某个时间点为了简化体验或降低成本而走向单一统一操作系统?此外我还有一个追问。谢谢。
P10854:41
John TernusCEO
Yeah, thanks for the question, Richard. Look, we are very proud of both the Mac and the iPad. I think what you've seen over the years is, we've really enjoyed the ability to bring features and capabilities across the ecosystem and create really compelling features that span things between handoff between iPhone and Mac and iPad. When we design the products, we're looking at how can we make the best version of each and every product. If you look at what we just did last week with the MacBook Pro, we took a huge leap forward. These MacBook Pros are better in every way than the ones that came before them, and we're really proud of that. We don't have any fundamentally different changes that we're planning right now, nor would we talk about it anyway.
好的,感谢你的提问,Richard。我们为 Mac 和 iPad 都感到非常自豪。我想过去多年来大家所看到的是,我们非常擅长将各种功能和能力跨生态系统打通,打造出在 iPhone、Mac 和 iPad 之间无缝接力(handoff)的极具吸引力的功能。当我们设计产品时,我们思考的是如何打造每一款产品的最佳形态。如果你看我们上周刚刚推出的新款 MacBook Pro,我们实现了一次巨大的飞跃。这些新款 MacBook Pro 在各个方面都比前代产品更加出色,我们对此深感自豪。我们目前没有规划任何根本性的操作系统改变,即便有,我们也不会在此透露。
P10955:30
Richard KramerAnalyst, Arete Research
Okay, thanks. Then, we saw two years of declines in China sales, and this year, Apple obviously grew a very healthy 28% in FY 2026. Can you talk through to what you attribute that recovery and whether you think Greater China can sustain these sort of elevated levels of growth, which are really leading the company regionally now? Thanks.
好的,谢谢。另外,此前我们看到中国市场销售额连续 2 年下滑,而今年苹果在 2026 财年显然实现了非常健康的 28% 增长。你能否谈谈你将这一复苏归因于什么,以及你认为大中华区能否维持目前这种在公司各地区中处于领跑地位的高增长水平?谢谢。
P11055:53
John TernusCEO
Yeah. Let me give you some color on China. We were very pleased with the performance in Greater China, right? Revenue was up 21% during the September quarter, which was a quarterly record. The performance was primarily driven by iPhone, where we set a September quarter record, and by Mac, where we saw very strong double-digit growth. Taking a step back, Greater China was up 28% for the full year. Tim and Sabih were just in China meeting with customers and developers and partners, and it has been wonderful to see the customer reaction to our latest lineup of products, including iPhone Duo. Our installed base of active devices has reached an all-time high, and we had a record year for iPhone upgraders in mainland China.
好的,我来介绍一下中国市场的情况。我们对大中华区的表现感到非常满意。9 月季度大中华区营收同比增长 21%,创下该季度历史纪录。这一表现主要由创下 9 月季度纪录的 iPhone 以及实现强劲两位数增长的 Mac 所驱动。退后一步看全年表现,大中华区全年同比增长 28%。Tim 和 Sabih 刚刚访问了中国,与当地客户、开发者和合作伙伴进行了会面,看到客户对包括 iPhone Duo 在内的最新产品阵容的反响如此热烈,令人倍感欣喜。我们的活跃设备装机量创下了历史新高,中国大陆的 iPhone 升级换机用户数也创下了年度纪录。
P11156:33
According to a survey from Worldpanel, iPhone models were the top three selling smartphones in urban China, and we think we gained share on iPhone and Mac. A couple other really compelling things. On Mac, we had a record year for both upgraders and customers new to the product. According to Counterpoint, MacBook Air and MacBook Neo were the top two selling laptop models, and Mac mini was the top-selling desktop model in the September quarter. So, I guess to answer your question, we think the success comes from having really great products.
根据 Worldpanel 的一项调查,iPhone 机型包揽了中国城市地区最畅销智能手机的前 3 名,而且我们认为我们在 iPhone 和 Mac 上均提升了市场份额。还有几个非常有说服力的亮点:在 Mac 方面,我们的升级换机用户数和产品新客户数均创下了年度纪录。根据 Counterpoint 的数据,在 9 月季度,MacBook Air 和 MacBook Neo 是最畅销的笔记本电脑机型前 2 名,而 Mac mini 则是销量第 1 的台式机机型。所以,回答你的问题,我们认为成功源于拥有真正卓越的产品。
P11257:06
Richard KramerAnalyst, Arete Research
Okay. Super. Thank you.
好的,太棒了,谢谢。
P11357:07
Suhasini ChandramouliHead of Investor Relations
Awesome. Thank you, Richard. Operator, may we have our last question, please?
太好了,谢谢你,Richard。主持人,请接入最后一个问题。
P11457:13
Operator
We will now go to Ben Bollin of Cleveland Research. Please go ahead.
下面有请 Cleveland Research 的 Ben Bollin 提问。请讲。
P11557:20
Ben BollinAnalyst, Cleveland Research
Good evening, everyone. Thanks for getting me in. John, I am interested in your thoughts with higher device prices, how you think about the environment around affordability programs and the importance to volumes with respect to trade-ins, subsidies, and other options, and what Apple can do to encourage more of that independently of funding it yourselves?
大家晚上好,感谢让我在最后提问。John,随着设备价格走高,我很想听听你对可负担性计划(affordability programs)整体环境的看法,以及以旧换新、补贴和其他分期方案对支撑销量的重要性;在不完全依赖苹果自身资金补贴的前提下,苹果可以采取哪些举措来鼓励更多这类计划?
P11657:43
John TernusCEO
Yeah. Look, when we are building products and then when we are pricing them, we are always focused on building the best products and services in the world and delivering incredible value to our customers. Obviously, as we have talked about, these memory prices are unprecedented, and so that has put pressure on our prices. It has been great to see the success of the products, and we have been investing in programs like the Apple Upgrade Program, which is a great way to help affordability. So, these affordability programs are definitely an important factor.
好的。当我们打造产品以及为产品定价时,我们始终专注于打造世界上最优秀的产品和服务,并为客户创造非凡的价值。显然,正如我们刚才谈到的,当前的内存价格上涨是前所未有的,这确实给我们的产品价格带来了压力。很高兴看到我们的产品取得了成功,同时我们一直在投入像 Apple Upgrade Program(苹果年年焕新计划)这样的项目,这是帮助提升产品可负担性的绝佳方式。因此,这类可负担性计划无疑是一个重要因素。
P11758:19
Ben BollinAnalyst, Cleveland Research
When you look at, I guess, the level of supply-demand balance, could you speak to where you see that at? Not necessarily where it is, where you would like it to be, and how you are thinking about the opportunity to get there across the portfolio?
当你审视供需平衡水平时,你能否谈谈目前的情况?不一定非要说明当前的具体缺口,而是你们希望达到怎样的状态,以及你们如何看待整个产品组合实现供需平衡的时间窗口?
P11858:40
Sabih KhanCOO
Yeah. Let me take that one, Ben. This is Sabih. For the December quarter, we expect constraints on Mac and iPad, and it is primarily driven by memory, and that is because the demand has been higher than what we expected. Beyond December quarter, we are not providing an outlook.
好的,Ben,这个问题由我来回答,我是 Sabih。对于 12 月季度,我们预计 Mac 和 iPad 将面临供给受限,这主要受内存供应制约,原因是市场需求超出了我们的预期。至于 12 月季度之后的情况,我们目前不提供展望。
P11958:59
Suhasini ChandramouliHead of Investor Relations
All right. Thank you, Ben. A replay of today's call will be available on Apple Podcasts and at apple.com/investor. Thanks again for joining us today, everyone.
好的,谢谢你,Ben。今天电话会议的重播将在 Apple Podcasts 和 apple.com/investor 上提供。再次感谢各位今天参加我们的会议。
P12059:11
Operator
Once again, this does conclude today's conference. We do appreciate your participation.
今天的会议到此结束,感谢各位的参与。